The Three Main Reasons Why Macs Suck
Why do people keep sending us hate mail telling us that Macs are better than PCs? They definitely aren’t. We have done plenty of research on the subject and have come up with three main reasons why you should never use or buy a Mac. These reasons alone give you permission to kick anyone in the face that uses one. Or tar and feather them. Whichever you feel is appropriate for the situation.
Reason number one is the fact that Macs can’t view pictures, be it a jpg, gif or png file. Most people who use a computer would like to view pictures. I know most of the staff here does. We view pictures all the time. This is one of the most important parts of the computer, besides Minesweeper. How can you view pictures on a Mac when they don’t have any programs! Where is MS Paint? Where is ACDSee? These programs are not available, thus, you can not view any pictures on a Mac.
Reason number two is not as major, but equally as annoying. Macintosh computers attach the string of words “Macs are cool” to every sentence you will read while using the OS. For example, try to open up an image file on a Mac. You will get the error message, “Cannot open image files on Macs. Macs are cool.” Why would they add this to every info, title and error message? That’s ridiculous. Who has time to read the fact that Macs are cool after every sentence when it is quite clear that they aren’t.
Reason number three is Macs can’t access the internet. Point being, you aren’t reading this if you are using a Mac! Steve Jobs, the president of Macs, said at a press conference a few weeks back that they were working on the whole “internet accessibility thing.” All computers come with the internet right? WRONG. On PCs, you can access the internet using AOL at anytime you desire! Macs don’t let you connect to the internet, it has something to do with INCOMPATIBILITY, something you better get used to if you use one. Why wait around to use your friends PC because you are on a Mac? That’s stupid, get rid of your Mac now and save yourself years of turmoil and stress.
New more reasons? See The Three Main Reasons Why Macs Suck (Part 2).
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This is a lies! Macs can viewe imoges!!!!1111 I am psting this from a mac computeh!!!!!111
Comment by Fred — 1/25/05 @ 6:59 pm
Hi Fred. I cross referenced you IP address in my access logs to the website. Surprise surprise!
Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
You’re not even on a Mac! Why do you lie like this! Also, why hasn’t anyone proved me wrong yet? I guess all of this must not be a joke anymore. It must be the truth, there is no other explanation.
Comment by Recipher — 1/27/05 @ 8:44 pm
Well can PC access Alien technology I think not, only Mac’s can. just watch Independence day
Comment by Optimus008 — 2/1/05 @ 10:36 pm
If by Alien Technology you mean sucking at everything, then yes I agree.
Comment by Recipher — 2/6/05 @ 6:41 pm
Well, I ain’t the sharpest twig on the block but I am pretty sure Recipher is joking…if anyone has any questions ask.
I was here just checking out this wordpress stuff on my mac
Comment by matt — 2/7/05 @ 12:47 am
HEY SUCKER! IM ON MY MAC AND IM ON YOUR STUPID SITE! WOHOO SURPRISE!!! And yes we can view PICTURES! You know why?! MAC IS FOR GRAPHISME!!
You are a real stupid ! seriously fuck You!
Comment by You"r a real sucker! — 2/13/05 @ 12:55 am
You’re right, I am a real stupid. I h4×0r3d into your computer, which is Windows ME by the way, and replaced your porn with pictures of badgers and battery fresh llamas.
Hope you don’t mind!
Comment by Recipher — 2/16/05 @ 5:38 pm
I’m typing this post on a brand new iMac I took out of the box 15 minutes ago. Also, to view pictures, OS X comes STANDARD with preview, to look at those formats.
Comment by Joe332 — 2/19/05 @ 9:16 pm
First, macs generally do a better job of displaying pictures than PCs. You should see how my G5 machine renders graphics on a widescreen monitor. It can blow away any machine running Windows. Most graphics professionals prefer to to use macs, although the differences are narrowing. Second, Macs ARE cool (and expensive, and over-hyped as well). Macs also have great internet accessibility. They were the first microcomputers that could be be networked. I’ve been using Macs for years. I recently built a PC, and based on my experience with this machine (a 3 GHz Pentium 4 running Windows XP) I will say that Macs are definitely slower. Plus, 95% of the world does computing on Wintel machines, so there is much more software available, plus hardware prices are cheaper. But as you might expect the hardware quality of a lot of PCs is inferior to Macs.
Comment by Bruce — 2/20/05 @ 1:01 am
Windows ME! You a mutherfuker! WINDOWS SUCKS!
MAC OS X RULES!
Comment by Oh shit! — 2/20/05 @ 10:51 pm
“I like macs because they are more secure than windows”
thats bull, the only reason they’re “more secure” is because no one has one and there not compatible with anything. You could right a virus that affected every single mac that was ever made or 15% of windows users. You would infect MORE windows users. If you realy want a secure computer try BDP Free, no one right anything for it so it will NEVER get a virus. Or you could use a rock. It runs 2 times as many good programs as the mac does. 2 x 0 = 0
Comment by Bman21212 — 2/21/05 @ 12:49 pm
MACS SUCK you got to use them in school and i go near one i though up.
Comment by Yodonggibgib — 2/24/05 @ 1:12 pm
what do air conditioners and pcs have in common?
give up??
every time you open a window they both seem to malfunction!!!!
hhahahahahahaha
no…but seriously……pcs suck dem nuts…
Comment by mak_man — 2/24/05 @ 9:03 pm
Both macs and PC’s have there advantages… allthough i do find mac’s doing the same job as a pc… no better
and making it more difficult by taking away functional buttons and keys… why is this…
and why the fuck does everything weigh so fucking much…
jesus.. enough plastic ? how can this stuff be so heavy….
cheers
Comment by JP — 2/25/05 @ 7:17 am
macs are for paedophiles only. they use them to render high quality images of k1ddy p0rn, that they got their mother to photograph (no mac user lives out of home) when they invited the local preschool over for lunch.
Comment by spawah — 3/2/05 @ 6:18 pm
Just face it. macs suck all together! Mother Fuckers!
Comment by The macinator — 3/3/05 @ 5:45 pm
Mac’s are quite possibly the worst technological machine ever manufactured. I know you diehard mac fans get a huge chubby when someones pc hard drive crashes. But put this in perspective, my pc has only crashed once. But, on two occasions i’ve had a Mac catch on fire at school destroying the ENTIRE computer. PC4ever!!
Comment by Dan — 3/5/05 @ 1:02 am
Garbage. Everything you said was nonsense. The iMac G5 comes standard with Preview for viewing pictures. It comes with Apple Works, which has a paint program on it. I’ve never seen the words “Macs are Cool” in error messages because so far I’ve not seen an error message in three months. And as far as the whole internet access bullshit you were saying, I’m on your site typing this.
I have a 1.6 GHz PowerPC G5 with 512MB of RAM. My friend came over today with her 2.0 GHz Compaq Presario notebook with 512MB of RAM. Her computer is 400 MHz faster than mine, and we tested to see who could get into Microsoft Word faster from a full computer startup. I got there 20 seconds faster, and I had to start up OS X and Classic because I have Word 98. That’s pretty sad PC users. Besides, it’s kinda hard to keep using the porn excuse when you boot up a PC and get a plethora of spyware. It happened to me before, and that’s why I’m typing this on a Mac today. Thank you.
Comment by Anonymous — 3/6/05 @ 11:56 pm
MACs SUCK DONKEY BALLS
Comment by Bob — 3/7/05 @ 8:02 pm
Ok http://www.milkandcookies.com/article/1922/
Macs Suck, I have one and I also have a PC
(my pc i much better)
You see when you go to the store to buy games for your PC there are sooooo many games I mean everywhere you look games Games GAMES!!!! But when you are looking for games for your mac its easy to pick because there are just six games, and tou already know which ones are good because you’ve played all of them on the PC like 5 or 6 years ago…….
o yeah every one who leaves comments learn to spell so i know what you are talking about
-Peace-
Comment by Chase — 3/7/05 @ 8:09 pm
I think macs are useless, they have absolutely no purpose. The way they are set up is inconvenient and annoying to use. They take 15 minutes to boot up, and once they’re finished, you gotta restart em again cause of some internal error. The applications on macs never even run- you open up more than on program, and the computer crashes! PC’s are way better than Macs will ever be. Once you put a disk in a Mac, it’s in there for good! If you eject a disk when you’re not supposed to, the computer’ll freeze until you put the disk back in. If youre viewing an image off a disk on Win95, you can take the disk out *very* easily, and you’ll still be able to view the image.
One question I have about Macs.. what’s the purpose of a zip drive, if there aren’t even enough Mac programs to fill a whole zip disk?! I mean, come on.. anything you can do on a Mac, you can do on a PC. In Win95 you can change/view all file extensions in a snap, and change them just as easily. Macs come with cruddy desktop backgrounds, and Win95 has “wallpaper”, making it very easy to change it.
Comment by Chase — 3/7/05 @ 8:16 pm
This is the most rediculous post I ever saw, There is only one factual statement in it. And for you PC lovers grow up, get off your crappy computer, and date a girl(by that I meen not naked on your computer chair) Macs are so much easier to use that PC’s it is undescribable. The only reason PC’s are more common the macs beacuse they’re cheaper.
PC+ Retard=Poor Hill Billy. It’s a simple equation physcicist use it. PC’s suck, their soul purpose of the universe is too crash and make cute little teddy bears head get chopped of. Please stop the rath of PC before it’s too late! Plz, do it for the next generation, or else terrorist will use crappy ass PC’s to screw with PC users little minds. Thank U PillowRage out
Comment by PillowRage — 3/8/05 @ 9:53 pm
Guys, sorry, I didn’t realize that I had all comments set to moderation and not email me for approval.
PillowRage, the factual statement that you speak of is “Macs Are Cool” being added to every message?
Comment by recipher — 3/9/05 @ 11:17 pm
I didn’t even bother reading any of this. Not even the starting blog entry. I’m here to set all of you stupid assholes straight.
If you have a mac (and I don’t capitalize that out of disrespect), you are gay. Some of you may say to yourselves, “I’m totally straight you fucking douche bag!” I realize that right now you may think your straight, but give me your address and I’ll come to your house, totally flip out, and ram your entire mac completely up your ass, and by completely I mean input devices (if you stupid mac asshole mac users even call them input devices) and all. We’ll see if you’re not gay when I’m done with you.
A return key? Are you fucking kidding me? What am I returning to? It’s the age of the enter button, assholes.
Moreover, mac don’t even connect to the same internet. If I want to go to any domain other than .tv, I have to use a PC. What the fuck is that all about. Doesn’t mac realize that there are like only two web sites that are .tv?? Fucking stupid assholes! God I hate macs.
Oh, and then there’s the matter of overheating. PCs warn you. when macs overheat they just over heat until either you realize it or they melt. I’ve had two macs completely melt into a liquid because I left them on over night at work. I mean, you’d think those god damn, son’s of bitches would be able to put at least some sort of primitive monkey warning system. How shitty is that?
My last complaint about macs…
They really, really hurt getting rammed up your asshole. So step up to the plate bitches and gimme your address if you use a mac. I’ll hit a mother fucking grand slam with your ass and mac. What??
Comment by Mac Ass Rammer — 3/10/05 @ 4:58 pm
I Noticed tha Mac Users have to resort to name calling in defence of there Macs..I wondered why..Oh Yea the paid so much fo somethin that is so slow and incompatable with other computertypes..It took (As I remember it) for Crapintosh to begin using Standardized stuff to communicate (This does not included the 56K Modem wich it seems to use at a very slow speed any ways) There oses are very badly designed (I know i been a technition for a long time now and have worked on both) Now Apple Invents things (In there ads) that PCs have had for years…Wow.. That’s um um.. Cool. Um why is it in most offices you see the workers on PCs?..Cause macs are slow (Compaire the G Macs to the Pentium IIIs) and way way over priced..No upgrades for Crapintosh..You are stuck with what they give you..Rightdown to the Operating system..You don’t have the (Save the Mac Servers) choice to put any other operating system on it..you are stuck wit the Crap OS.
Comment by D — 3/11/05 @ 6:53 am
OMG, now I realize stupidity at its strongest, I didn’t think that was possible after Bush, but f’in PC users make me wanna cry. Here’s my comment, “Just go home pile of shit, the only people that matter are the ones that have macs” Have you ever wondered in the secret service taking bullets have a mac? ha! Fat chance! Some people just make me wanna puke. There is not one thing that is better about PC’s than macs, PC users have to say lies to make themselves feel better. (It must be a scary world for them) I wouldn’t know because I matter and I’m not a smelly redneck living in an out house. For all you PC’s users suck’in your them in the dark of the night, Fuck You ya little Faggats. God Dammit!! Just making me think of you makes me vomit! I Jut feel like taking a 1,000 hairy crickets and shoven them up yo ass mother fucker! I will burn your house down with me ass bitch, with me ASS! I will show no mercy, infact, I’ll shove yo goldfishup me ass. And dress yo PC up as a cute little school boy and lock him in a room with Micheal Jackson and Paris Hilton’s Penis for erternity. PillowRage out BEATCH!
Comment by PillowRage — 3/12/05 @ 3:35 am
PillowRage, I suggest yoga and drinking green tea to help you with your hypertension.
D, I don’t think that you will be able to fool people into thinking that you are a computer “technition” considering the fact that it’s spelled incorrectly.
Comment by recipher — 3/12/05 @ 4:31 pm
Ok fucktart!
I am using a mac. And i can see pictures and i am on the internet using mozilla firefox, safari, and internet explorer at the same time! allo of wich came with my mac, including the WIRELESS INTERNET CARD that lets me get on the net, the etherenet card that lets me get on the net and the modem that lets me get on the net. you have obviouslt never once used a mac. of course they can view pictures. and MSPaint! are you a retard MicrosoftPaint, microsoft, you know that OS that sucks! why would apple put MS paint on their computers when photoshop, an industry standard works fine. You, being the friggin dipstick that you are, probly couldnt get any programs working because you are a) using a 50 year old mac OR b) you are trying to install a windows program OR c) you are a fucking moron
Comment by David Kain — 3/13/05 @ 2:10 pm
guess what, punk. im on a iBook using a wireless internet connection. in my house, we have 4 macs. they all have the internet. i also have xbox live, wich shares the internet with the macs. so, if u want settle this spartan to elite, go on halo 2 xbox live and look, 4 Jackaulfasaur, ill be waiting to kick ur ass.
Comment by Jackaulfasaur — 3/13/05 @ 3:48 pm
Sorry mate, I don’t play Halo. Halo sucks as much as Macs and ironically it’s made by Microsoft.
David Kain, I’m pretty knowledgable about computer and the internets, so don’t think this is the reason why I think Macs suck. As a matter of fact, I installed AOL on my computer all by myself, without any help from tech support the last time I did it. Also, MSPaint is much better than Adobe Photoshop. Photoshop sucks for images.
Comment by recipher — 3/13/05 @ 8:12 pm
ya know what really sucks, crazy religious fanatics like recipher. they always deny the truth, wich really bugs me. HALO ROCKS- is the truth, and PC’s SUCK is the truth. U deny that macs do things that they obviously do. I am on the internet, and i save porn on jpgs, and they never say macs are kool.
Comment by Jackaulfasaur — 3/13/05 @ 9:24 pm
Jackoffasaur, let’s read over the main header graphic of this page out loud together. “Blue Damage: FAKE NEWS….” Now, assuming that you know the definition of fake and news, you should probably be able to put two and two together. Maybe you can’t see the graphic at all because you are on a Mac. I really don’t know.
Now, browse through some of the other fine journalism that we have on this site. For example, take a look at our undercover investigation on The Loch Ness Monster.
Truthful? Probably not. Sexy llamas? Quite possibly.
Comment by recipher — 3/14/05 @ 12:39 am
bitch, u say i cant be on the internet on a mac. how am i tellin you this?
Comment by Jackaulfasaur — 3/14/05 @ 2:31 pm
By using a PC most likely.
FACED.
Comment by Recipher — 3/14/05 @ 9:52 pm
Ok dude, I am a compete PC guy. I hate macs with a passion and believe they are much slower than windows. Also, they do not have nearly as much software,
Now, I must say that you are a freaking moron who knows next to nothing about computers. My dad is a graphic artist, and all the computers in my house except mine are Macs. Macs CAN view pictures, they just use a different file format for them. Macs CAN get on the internet, they can use explorer or a multitude of other programs.
The whole “internet accesibility thing” is in reference to apple making thier own web browser, instead of using explorer.
They now all come standard with Safari.
Comment by Tim — 3/15/05 @ 5:50 pm
Someone set you up the bomb.
All your PC are belong to Macs.
Comment by Steve Jobs — 3/15/05 @ 10:05 pm
They now all come standard with Safari.Look Tim, all I want to do is surf the interwebs and look at some pictures with my OS. If I wanted to go on a Safari, I’d go to Africa or something.
Comment by Recipher — 3/16/05 @ 2:24 pm
I will talk to you later when your sys32 is all fucked up and you have no idea where the problem is. Or when you can’t track the spyware down. Oh yeah… I’ve had both XP and OSX for about a year now. tally is that I have had to reformat the XP once (did all updates and such, every update) and haven’t had my PB OSX crash once. I only reformatted when there was no other option than brain numbing slow speed and constant crashes. I think that I am about to give up and reformat again. I have to use the mofo for work, and believe me, it ain’t fun when you lose 3 hours work to a damn worm!
Comment by brendave — 3/16/05 @ 10:09 pm
can’t you dumbasses realize that this is a JOKE???
I am, by the way, using a Mac
Comment by Me — 3/17/05 @ 9:34 pm
Who are all this people there which pretend to have knowledge in computer and in internet. People who are really like this are able to do unix, linux Os X and Windows…
most of what it said here is untruth and really dangerous. Most of the things described here as impossible to execute on the macs are just so silly, you arte really under informed… it works like any os except not running virus or spam relay ( is it really that bad ?)
Comment by ObiWanRiko — 3/18/05 @ 7:02 am
I develop web-sites for a living. And I am so sick of having to deal with MAC OS issues. The inability of MAC OS to compy with W3C is the most frustrating part of my job. Freakin cant even get a hover to work in a style. I have to make 7 different style sheets to accomodate just how browsers cant seem to agree on how to render styles on the MAC OS. I wont even start with the Flash issues. Surprised macromedia hasnt filed suit yet
In short, yeah macs may render graphics nicely but PCs are closing the gap. MACs also make some things easier for some users who are digitally handicapped but screw up so many more things..networking a printer comes to mind. For Fuch sake MACs ! at least attempt to get onboard with W3C
Comment by face2six — 3/18/05 @ 2:27 pm
Recipher, ur not gonna make it as a comedian, srry to break it to ya, further more, plz do us all a favor, and reach nirvana. Ur given me a cold, I allergic to stupididy, jordan alper, and jake schuster.
Comment by PillowRage — 3/19/05 @ 12:29 am
Ur given me a cold, I allergic to stupididyNo comment there PillowRage, except I love you. I cherish our time together.
Comment by Recipher — 3/19/05 @ 2:27 pm
Man, whoever made this site is a true ass-clown, all three of the statements he has made are incorrect and are lies, my iBook that I’m on right now is a perfectly fine computer.
Comment by PowerPc 4 — 3/20/05 @ 3:02 am
me has been useing a maC for long time now and it seem that it affectid my englishh. i once had pC and i had masters degree in IT and filosofy. now me can’t even spell properly. i say to you everybody – don’t use MaC because it will fudge up-a-your head with confosion. i now go to buy groovy eMachine from those nice Dill people.
damn those appLes lies and stuff
Comment by bibble — 3/21/05 @ 3:52 pm
all computers suck ass. there. i said it. go eat a tangerine or something.
Comment by programmer — 3/23/05 @ 4:43 am
Okay, I think everybody is taking this site too seriously. This HAS to be a parody on Mac-haters. Recipher’s original statements are just too absurd for words. They’re not only absolutely untrue, they’re outright farce.
“For example, try to open up an image file on a Mac. You will get the error message, ‘Cannot open image files on Macs. Macs are cool.’” Come on, I’m supposed to take that SERIOUSLY? The guy is JOKING, folks.
Now, Chase’s replies are simply untrue. Made up. Completely baloney. No other way to put it. But that’s the kind of post that this guy is apparently parodying. It’s a good put-on, though…you actually got some Mac users suckered in and angry.
For the real Mac-bashers here: to see how good a Mac truly is, all anyone has to do is trot themselves down to their nearest CompUSA or Apple store and try OS X, and they’ll see how much more functional it is than XP. Not only that, but the latest edition of OS X (out in April or July, depending on which rumor you listen to) will essentially have the stuff Longhorn has been promising for a long time, and won’t have until at LEAST 2006…probably 2007 or 2008, the way MS keeps pushing it back and eliminating features.
But I have to admit, after I got over my initial shock at this site, I got a good laugh out of it. It sounds a lot like some of the more brain-damaged anti-Mac stuff that’s out there. “Can’t display jpgs…can’t connect to the internet…crashes when more than one app is open…” LOL!!!
Comment by John F. Byers — 3/23/05 @ 2:59 pm
Although the IBM compatible and the earnestly chic Macintosh have their ardent and rather rumbustious supporters, I say you can’t beat a Commodore C64 for accessing internets and viewing electronic images. Unfortunately I am using a PC to post this as my C64 is having its 4 petabyte holographic storage cube upgraded.
Comment by Pete — 3/24/05 @ 8:25 pm
Man, i heard that after 30 minutes of use, the macs self destruct because it actual realizes what a piece of crap it is!!!!!! I mean seriously, if you just defended Macs just then, you are a complete idiot. Can you not sense even the slightest bit of sarcasm??
Comment by wes — 3/27/05 @ 8:24 pm
btw pete, C64’s rule!
Comment by wes — 3/27/05 @ 8:33 pm
wow what a debate . this is hot! woo! who really cares if these dopes dont see the light ,we know whats up! i love it, hearing about all my friends 250,000 virus’s in one day! ha! all ive had in a year is hmm ……1 .in a email never even got through. suckers. oh all the worm holes in the ms os is one reason pc’s suck.i dont know exactly what im talking about ,but i do know for shizzle dizzle pcs suck WHOLE Dicks.
Comment by poor people — 3/30/05 @ 12:04 am
haha thats so distorted that it IS truly funny, of course macs can do all those things, but unlike windows they never get the viruses that come from using the internet and conveniently come will a great photo browser. a mac even taught me how to clean blood stains from the walls when i murdered a small dog for chewing on my mac (such instructions are standard). i enjoy tacos and the movie “old school”. i like windows too, when it works, which is less often that i’d like, currently it wont start up, some corrupted hive thing which i hear is irrepairable. kinda sucks. oh well. back to “old school” and tacos
Comment by billjobs — 3/31/05 @ 12:45 am
There is only one down side to having a mac: only 3% of all computers sold are mac; that means less piracy is available for free and most people never owned a mac (and never will).
Thats just fine for me and though I think macs have the best solutions for my problems, I don’t recommend them for everyone. Since MS and other companies have done such a great job copying apple solutions and many native mac apps (adobe, etc) were exported to PCs, I find PCs today fairly tolerable (I remember this because i’ve had a mac for 15 years and back then PCs were a sad business altoghether).
Even so, apple offers a lot more of a OS than PCs, as it has more options and allows for far more customizing with less functional risk. And MACs are more efficient, i. e., more reliable and faster.
Since so little people have worked with a mac (and mostly with abused working machines at work/school) there is a lot of ignorance around. This is worsened by the great comments mac users spread around (most of which are to some extent the fruit of surprise in achiving results and are exagerated) which only make PC user feel more awkward. So there is a lot of misconception or grosse ideas about mac (as the three above).
And of course people who expect to “get all their apps for friends” are best advised to keep away from MACs or they might actualy end up buying software they need (heaven forbid). Less users means less piracy… and less viruses.
So most people realy should avoid working with MACs.
Expecting any other thing would be as ridiculous as expecting some midle-age MacDonalds-fed person to enjoy plain unscented mediterranean food – they wouldn’t recognise the natural look of food and it’s native taste. Thats life.
Macs are great for only a few wierd people – I’m one – most will feel ackward in a mac. It’s just to easy.
F
ps – sorry for the long talk. don’t mean no insult for pc users. anyone should feel free.
Comment by annon — 3/31/05 @ 6:17 am
Point blank: Macs are counterproductive. They are not real computers for many reasons.
1. OSX is not a real Macintosh operating system: it’s just Linux with a pretty shell. Apple ruined BSD by making it run on inferior PowerPC processors.
2. Today’s Macs are imposters. Feeling envious of the way PC users for years could simply open up their computer and fix it’s problems, Apple had to go out and steal every innovation developed by the PC industry (USB, IDE, VGA, etc) and put it on a computer that, years ago, broke down, had to be fixed by Apple. They hijacked BSD so Mac users could have a command line. Remember those commercials where Apple made fun of PCs because we used a command line interface? Go freggin’ figure…
3. The only reason Macintosh computers are even competative in today’s market is because of Bill Gates. He helped that hippie named Steve Jobs off his ass after Apple officially died back in the mid 90s.
4. Macs are not truly Macs. I can’t understand why OSX is a Macintosh operating system. “Classic” applications (OS 9 and down) don’t even run on a OSX Mac; you need an emulator to run those ancient, year and a half old applications. I was able to get the 1st version of “Leisure Suit Larry” to run on my XP machine without the aid of an emulator.
5. There is no such thing as a Mac expert or Mac IT specialist. Macs are so easy to use to the point where if you can’t set up a network on one or get onto the internet, you have no business even using an Atari 2600. And Macs just stop working if a problem is serious enough. The your “Mac IT” guy can’t even figure out what’s wrong with it. His solution is to reinstall OSX…
6. Macs are a fashion statement. Most people who use macs as their primary machine tend to be sort of stupid. A lot of Communists like Macs, I guess because everything looks the same.
7. God forbid something happen to your Mac after you expensive warranty expires. You’ll have to pay hundreds of dollars to renew your warranty.
8. They say the G5 is faster than a Pentium. In some cases this is true, but not when running OSX. Mac users brag about how they can run Windows XP on their Macs. I’ve seen Virtual PC running XP…slow…as…..hell. With PearPC, a Pentium 4 can run OSX at about 90% of normal speed.
9. Lastly, Mac users ARE JUST PLAIN ODDBALLS. Most are obsessed with Macs. They preach about how “cool” they are and how you should switch. Macs have an extremely limited amount of programs available for them when compared with PCs or Amigas. One of the reasons Apple made BSD the base of OSX is because Mac programs are not worth the time to write because of the odd structure of it’s classic operatig system. They’re just piggybacking off the popularity of Linux, a true Operating System. Why the hell is a Mac running X11? Sound like Linux to me…
I play with macs because they’re interesting, I will admit. But as far as networking, Internet, emulation of other systems, and just plain workability, PCs are better because they simply are capable of more. While macs have their strengths in certain areas, PCs do more under Windows XP and Linux. The sad part is that Apple took a robust operating system and turned it into a weakling by making it prop up the sorry Mac architecture.
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 4/3/05 @ 3:03 am
right now, I’m writing this post on a mac ibook.
First, macs can see pictures and use the internet. But other than that, they suck. I have an ibook as a loan from my school, the crappy thing crashes every other week. I completely hate it because I’d have a major project on it, then the mac will die and i’d lose everything. also, none of the mac “tech” people in our school (or anywhere for this matter) know anything. They couldn’t fix a simple problem, all they said was to re-install and re-clone everything. The only good thing about macs is that they don’t get any viruses, but only because people are too lazy too write them. And when you search through the mac, to find programs and hidden features, it is completely insanely stupid cause it always sends you back to the same place.
And the worst thing about macs, besides that they have no good games, is that they are unbelievably bad at multi-tasking. If you run more than one program, the whole thing crashes and takes more than 15 minutes to re-boot.
And I’m only at the tip of the iceberg…
This is why macs suck. This is why you should never get one.
Comment by explosion101 — 4/5/05 @ 10:49 pm
MACs are glorified door stops. If Apple spent as much time making there machines work decently as they do on making them look ‘cool’ then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
I am an IT admin on a PC network, unfortunately we use 5 G5s OSX. Why do Macs hate networks THAT IS WHAT COMPUTERS SHOULD BE DOING NOW DAYS…talking to each other. But oh no steve bulmer has other ideas.
Oh and can one of you mac freaks out there tell me why whenever there is an OS update from Apple it causes all your extensions for Quark Motion etc to go haywire stopping the apps from working?
MACS SUCK!!! and i dare anyone to disprove the above.
Comment by IT Admin — 4/7/05 @ 10:13 am
Ok so far all teh mac bashers seem to be talking about macs that are as old as Atari. second I know windows users who admit macs are good, but the price is too much (which I am willing to admit my self) Third go to google and type “world’s fastest desktop computer” ( minues the qoutations ) Fourth teh guy who posts macs sucks and doesnt read anything shows how ignorant he says and means what he says is nothing. Fifth there was competitno for a website being ran by a mac that if you altered teh web page you would recieve 13 thousand dollars. NO ONE was able to claim the prize. The computer only crashed 3 times the whole event from mass amoutn of ping death atacks ane the server rebooted ammediately aftewards…. to top it off no firewalls.
Comment by Malcolm Montgomery — 4/7/05 @ 12:54 pm
OH yeah and the new macs are probalyl the best computers for multi tasking and I havnt got teh crap idea what any of you guys are talkign about, also any computer from a school is goign to crash ( windows, linux , mac whatever ive seen it all )
Comment by Malcolm Montgomery — 4/7/05 @ 12:56 pm
Yeah, Macs suck. They don’t come with floppy drives, serial ports, parallel ports and PS/2 ports, Also, the statements that there is no software available for them is totally TRUE. I mean, no one even makes spyware removal apps for the Mac! Duh, hello?
There is no Outlook Express for email, but Apple includes a program called Mail, which is like a stripped-down email client that can’t execute scripts or open attachments without user intervention. Personally I find it annoying, but if someone doesn’t depend on emailing their coworkers vbscripts like I do, they might be able to get by with it. Secondly and possibly even more glaringly, there is no antivirus program shipped with the Mac. In today’s climate of non-stop worms, trojans and viruses, releasing a computer with no virus removal software is irresponsible on the part of Apple. The OS X comes with some system maintenance utilities, but essentials such as a defragmenter or a registry cleaner are notably absent.
Finally, there is no Mac version of WeatherBug to check the temperature anywhere in the world. Nor is there a Mac version of helpful web and email enhancers like Hotbar. Or any equivalent of the DealHelper software I use to keep track of my passwords.
Comment by Jeff — 4/8/05 @ 9:04 am
He is wrong, however macs do really suck, the G5 just has a good processor, everything else sucks, macs suck for games cus it takes 4 months for a mac version to come out, macs are homosexual.
Comment by Swanston — 4/8/05 @ 1:42 pm
kill macs . they are horrid. where the hell is right click? oh ya , there isnt one. kill macs. make them burn!!!! BUUUUURN!
Comment by macs suck — 4/9/05 @ 2:40 am
ALL OF THEM BURN
Comment by Yodonggibgib — 4/9/05 @ 9:01 am
To all you Mac haters, sorry fellas, I’ve heard some of the dumbest shit in my life. Can’t access the internet?!!? I can FLY through the web faster than ANY of you PC (“Piece of Crap”). Any of those statements that were that fucking retarded obviously came from people who have either never used a Mac or used a REALLY old one. Ive used Macs all my life at home, and PCs all my life at school. Yes, PC’s have so many frickin games, many that you can’t buy for a Mac. BUT I can download ANY videogame from ANY system EVER created in about 20 minutes (per game, and im talkin Halo 2 or whatever the hell I want).
Next, I could hack into any one of ur PCs right now and do whatever i want, but feel free to call up Bill Gates and ask him to try to Hack into my computer. He’d laugh and say, “are you KIDDING me? that’s simply not possible”. One retard asked, “wheres MsPaint?” Dude, a paint program has been standard on any Mac since i don’t even know, the early, mid 90’s? If i want to use a computer that is comparable to a new PC, I go down in my basement and use a Mac that I bought back in ‘97, which still has fast internet, any program I need, yet of course, limited games(as do any computer from ‘97). My new Mac is the shit and it will last me many many years and still be the shit.
Why do you see PCs in alot of offices? because you can buy one for 300 Dollars, and then have it fuck up on you in less than a year. People, Dont listen to those Mac haters, there is no way that anyone would EVER pay extra money for a computer that sucks, and then, brag about it, no, they would go buy a 300 dollar Dell. But, smart people realize how good Macs are and are willing to pay the extra money, they’ve used PCs, everyone has, and then they realized that Macs are worth the money. So, Macs are worth all the hype if it overpowers the bullshit negativity thrown around about Macs.
Comment by WickTown — 4/13/05 @ 8:22 pm
Everyone, I second Wicktown
Comment by Macs Rule — 4/13/05 @ 8:25 pm
Everyone, I second Wicktown.Heh. WickTown, you are in such denial that you have to post an additional comment saying that you agree with yourself under a different name?
Wow, how can you download games on a Mac when Macs don’t connect to the internet to begin with (did you read the article)? Can you download Minesweeper too, the most important application ever created? Probably not. Even if somehow you were able to get the program on your computer, you would try to run it and your computer would give the following error message, I’ve looked into and done the research fella.
Can not run Minesweeper. Macs are cool.Comment by recipher — 4/13/05 @ 9:39 pm
when the hell did u write this cos it is a massive pile off bull. i have been macs my whole life, i never EVER plan on buying a pc. i am using a mac at this moment and the only time i have to use a pc is at school. and did you know that mac was the first user friendly OS? did you know that bill gates is such a prink that he wont upgrade mac msn so i dont even have a display pic. and you know the main reason i hate PCs? i dont care if you love them because “oh pcs are so amazing i have MSpaint, i have a load of games, i have THE SHITTEST LOOKING COMPUTER THE CIVILISED WORLD HAS EVER SEEN.” because everytime i use a pc, it doesnt f*ckin work. it takes about 3 hours to log in, then when im finally on it looks like a massive pile of w*nk.
reasons i LOVE macs,
1) they look the shit 2) they are the shit 3) they work everytime unless some retard pc user has buggered them up 4) they can look at images, since when have they not i would like to know 5) they can go on the internet and faster than your regurgitated motherboard in a grey box 6) applications to open a can of whoop ass on any of that shite on a pc 7) what do you reckon web designers, designers, animators, and countless others use? windows XP. i dont f*cking think so.
so dont give me a load of bollocks about how superior PCs are when you don’t know f*ck all. and im 14 btw, have some of that. out done by a minor. UN F*CKIN LUCKY
Comment by emma — 4/14/05 @ 4:26 pm
u want to know the reason why no one makes spyware removal for macs? because macs never get viruses because the are not used by the retards who tardish enough to download a virus therefore people dont make mac spyware. and even if they did, you can buy the software. pick up a macuser magazine, go in the back bit and oh hello, spyware removal programmes! what a surprise. so get the facts straight before you mouth off about macs because you know bollocks all.
Comment by emma — 4/14/05 @ 4:42 pm
Wow, emma. How elequently you express yourself. By your used of profanity, I thought you were 12 rather than 14.
Yes, PCs have spyware. But that is a minor inconvenience compared to WHAT PCs ARE CAPABLE OF, when compared to today’s Macs.
Now let’s get real: No one uses a mac as there primary machine besides those Star Wars nuts and schizophrenic people. OSX is not a true Apple creation. Someone is eventually going to disassemble the Carbon portion of OSX, blend it with something like OpenDarwin and we soon will have the ability to run those flimsy OSX (their really BSD apps) apps on our PCs.
No one codes on a mac. What was the last great app that originated from a mac?
Most of the software macs use are just mac versions of PC titles. Where would OSX be without Microsoft Office? I didn’t say OpenOffice or AbiWord, but Bill Gate’s creation.
Apple itself would be NOTHING today without Bill Gates. Remember back in the 90s when Apple was about to go out of business? You don’t, since you were only 4 or 5 years old, so let me school ya.
Apple was so hard up, that they were licensing their unique ROM to other companies, such as Umax and PowerComputing BECAUSE THEY WERE BROKE!!! For the first time ever, you saw Mac clones in the United States.
Back to your sermon about spyware: a lot of stupid people use PCs, as great as they are. Most people who have spyware on their boxes most likely were trying to do something or download something they had no business messing with. Common sense is the best spyware software.
No one has written a mac virus because it would be no fun. The virus would only affect 3% of users worldwide. That’s no fun for a person who writes viruses.
When Windows Longhorn is released, believe me, IT WILL BLOW OSX OUT OF THE WATER!!!! I CAN’T WAIT!!!! OSX is simply Unix with a pretty shell.
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 4/14/05 @ 10:07 pm
Damn, Its amazing most of you PC user never ever used a Mac and are basing your assumption on shit, and using a Mac one time at school doesn’t make you an einstein onit. Did you know that when Mac released it OS caled lisa in 1987 it was the equivalent of Win 95. What did windows have Dos, window 3.1 wasn’t realsed it 1992. An even now Xp sucks, XP has 40-60 million lines of code, while OS X has needs only 4 million lines of code, Linux use 3-4 million lines of code.
All you PC users do is buy what Bill Gates tells you to buy, I bet if He could sell his shit in a box, and you would by it because he told you to.
Comment by Jack — 4/16/05 @ 9:47 pm
You are obviously not familiar with Macs, the machine to claim is so great, because the Lisa Office System was 1) not an OS, but a computer which was the front-runner to the Mac and 2) released in 1983.
You mac users spread lies about how Microsoft stole aspects of the mac os and added them to Windows. Well, apple (or “Crapple”, as I like to refer to it as) stole most of the aspects of the first mac os from the Xerox PARC computers, even down to the vector based icons and black and white display.
And who gives a rat’s ass about lines of code? Did you count them yourself?
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 4/17/05 @ 12:14 am
Ok..here’s my opinion (plz don’t kill me)
Windows +’s
Compatable..very compatable
Much lower cost
Upgradeability is a brease
Mostly everything is done easily..basics and a few other things
They DON’T crash as often
Finally, seriously..games…i cannot get games on a mac.
Mac +’s
Holy crap..beautiful
Sit on your ass and let your Mac do EVERYTHING for you
Software comes from very few places, so u know what u getting
So many neat little apps
The Mac’s look nice
Windows -’s
Almost to many programs
Tech support is crap
GUI isnt as nice
and don’t even get me started on networking..
Mac -’s
Cost
Incompatability
Limited Everything
Performance not as good as PC’s
But basicly this is what it breaks down to. If u have NO idea of any computer related things..get a Mac..it will do most of everything for you, u can do the basics and w/e other “photos of the kids, email, just basic stuff” programs u need
Know some more..been using computers..get a PC..u get more software for less nad open pastures in which to make software
So thier just computers…let it go…some people like some, others like others…oh well..
BTW u can skin Macs to look like PC’s and PC’s to look like macs..so
I’m Done..
Comment by MMG — 4/22/05 @ 8:21 pm
Wow, this is funny, I came to this site to get a laugh and I DID!, all of these people who care more about what is better mac or pc. I am a pc man, but come one. The only solution for you NERDS!!!!! is to get a damn sex life and then you will realize is WHO CARES!!!!!!!!
Comment by walrus — 4/22/05 @ 9:44 pm
I love it when people care on the internet.
I guess no one can read “Fake news” at the top of the page.
Comment by idiot — 4/24/05 @ 3:16 pm
OK, I have used both… And I am a graphic designer that uses a PC. I preffer it. They both are fine computers I just don’t see the point in paying so much for so little… The pc can use more software and hardware. Plus I can pretty much get any app for free on a pc just by look around on the net. You can’t do that with a mac because they only make 20% of apps for a mac.
I understand why people use mac, it’s nice to have your life pretty and candy coated. To me a computer is a tool for function not to be or look cool.
Yes a mac is faster on the net, because they don’t need to run virus or wirewall, which takes up resources on the pc… Solution, get more ram, it will still cost you less than a mac.
Here is an example of something I noticed, when XP came out 4 years ago it was fresh and loaded with new features, by far the most stable and reliable windows to date. A couple years later OSX come out and they bragged and boosted all of the wonderful new features, and suprise most of them were already in XP… Now 4 years later XP is still the standard and OSX has come out with like 3 different versions that all cost you money… Why not take a tip from MS and put all your new stuff in one release every few years instead of charging your already bled dry user base to death?
Now don’t be mad at what I wrote, if you really think about it you will see my point and I didn’t need to use name calling to make it.
Comment by yomomma — 4/27/05 @ 3:28 pm
I’m on a PC! Ahh! Ahh! ..I like Macs.
Comment by Henry — 4/28/05 @ 5:15 pm
Here’s some good humor: “How Apple could crush Microsoft” at http://www.cnet.com/4520-6033_1-6213658-1.html?tag=nl.e501
Comment by cypher — 4/29/05 @ 5:09 pm
You all are acting like a bunch of 3rd grade morons. Who gives a fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Brian — 4/30/05 @ 6:04 pm
Who gives a fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Apparently you do, using all those exclamation points silly.
Comment by recipher — 4/30/05 @ 6:10 pm
Fuck iMacs, Apples are inferior and will make you gay.
Comment by KG — 4/30/05 @ 9:24 pm
I am typing FROM a mac which throws out your last statement since i am on the internet. Secondly Macs can view images in all of those file types and of course they aren’t going to have MSpaint because it is a Microsoft program – viewing photos and files is as easy as clicking on them, viewing them in iphoto and/or another of the many programs on the mac which are either bought or ( usually) come with it. Your second point, the whole “macs are cool” thing, like your other points, is completely untrue – and if these things are true the mac you were using was obviously made to influence you toward windows’ products. Lastly, the windows machine in the long run costs more when you add up the tech-support, add ons, software, hardware and repairing the damage of viruses. Macs come with all that, what you need and on the odd occasion when something does go wrong and you need to fix it, you don’t have to empty your bank account and sell your soul to do so.
Comment by R.D. — 5/1/05 @ 12:43 pm
Hahaha, this is funny. Mac Users boast their system by using their scapegoat of “defy microsoft man!” and windows users boast their systems by basically saying “games man!”.
Reasons to get a Mac: Pretty, no prior knowledge of computers needed.
Windows: I would have to say that all of Mac’s shortcomings, and many more are avaiable on windows (although ill admit, windows has lots of probs).
Everyone needs to calm down a bit, and think of how retarded this argument is. It really doesn’t matter what you use, as long as it gets the job done.
Plus, if you were to deck out all the cosmetics that mac has, windows would run slower, and if you were to do the same thing to mac, it would run faster (unless you have significant hardware specs, and i wont even mention running graphic intensive games).
But all in all, both machines have their upsides and downsides. Now all im waiting for is longhorn, and them we can seriously compare the new systems. (or maybe a combination of the two systems into one super open source project
Comment by Can't Think of a Name — 5/2/05 @ 8:23 pm
Okay lets get down to it. PC’s suck. Here is why they suck. First you get your bargain pc for 300 and come to find out that you need to upgrade the memory to run certain functions faster. Then you need to put in a new graphics card to play your damn games. Now you gotta upgrade the sound card because you only got onboard sound in the first place. Oh and lets not forget that the bargain computer you have came with only a 40 gig internal drive and a cd rom so now you need to upgrade those and might as well change how it looks too, because modding is so cool. By the time your done you’ve already sunk in twice what you paid for. Oh and here’s the real kicker. You really need to upgrade every two years in the pc world due to changes in technology. If you got a standard desktop mac the only thing that you would need to do is put in more memory (apple is a little skimpy on that) and that is it. What about virus software someone asked? You really don’t fuckin need it. There are only 32( that’s right motherfuckers 32) known viruses that can harm a mac. At last count there are over 70,000 viruses and worms that can hurt a pc. But what happens if a pc virus gets into a mac? Nothing.. not a goddamn thing will happen because they are different operating systems!!! And people say macs are slow? Are you kidding me. What are they slow on? My mac boots up in twenty seconds and has never…I should repeat this for clarity…never frozen or stalled on me. The only program that is buggy on my mac is Microsoft office 2004 and that says something right there. As for all you teenage game bitches out there. Apple doesn’t want you so stop bitching. There are few games for a reason. Macs were made for people who are working , not for slackers. If you want to play a fuckin game then buy and xbox and shut up.
Oh and since we’re spreading lies about computers I have a few for ya.
Reasons pc’s suck balls
1. When you want to multi-task on a pc the computer laughs at you then kills itself.
2.You’ve got upgrade every damn six months just to play the most recent game
3. You’re Microsofts bitch
4. You now belong to the patch of week club
5. Pc are just fuckin ugly
6. Too many shit applications and programs on the pc side.
And finally gamers suck sweaty fuckin balls anyway.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/4/05 @ 10:28 pm
Goddamn this site has my agent orange up!
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/5/05 @ 1:43 am
I’ve got a question Bobo, I’m trying to use my friends Mac right now. I can’t get it connected to the internet. It keeps saying, “Teh Mac lose connection! Macs are Kool.” This is a bit of a problem.
The mac used to say that “Macs are Cool” with a C not K. How can I get it so it says that again instead? I don’t care about the surfing the internet instead because I can just use the PC for that. I think I may have gotten a Mac virus or something that changed the error message. Please help!
Comment by recipher — 5/5/05 @ 1:48 am
Sure no problem. You see your pc is too close to your mac. Pc’s are know for sending out toxic waves of stupidity. Your mac is simpley confused, it’s being over run with high levels of rddduh radiaton ( short for retardddduhhhhh) and needs to be placed in a better environment. All you need to do to fix this is either put you mac in a starbucks and order it a mocha frappucino or distract your pc and keep it’s little mind buisy. You can open up the pc and kick the little gebil inside a few times or you can give it some nachos and let is play Halo on the xbox. Either way the less it thinks the better.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/5/05 @ 2:03 am
You see little do people know that pc’s are programmed in a different language. A pc will lay around all day, drinking faygo and smokin cheap weed. All the while complaining about why they can’t get on the World of Warcraft site today and wondering when their “check” is gonna get here ( it is after the 1rst after all). Mac’s are programmed to get up early, work hard and come home to fuck the prom queen right out of her pretty pink panties. The lesson is if you want to play games you have a pc. If you want to make games you have a mac.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/5/05 @ 2:11 am
Everyone here needs to get a life, Macs suck,Pc sucks. Every computer sucks one way or another. So shut the hell up, none of you have any good arguements to back up what your saying. Espcialy you video game players, you have a computer, us it and do something creative, don’t be a dumn-ass and waste $1,000’s of dollars on a machine that just play video games. If thats all you use a computer for you need to be taken outside and your dumn-ass shot.
Comment by optimus008 — 5/5/05 @ 12:24 pm
go here to see the truth how mac users are smarter than PC users.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/macswitch.html
Comment by crazy — 5/6/05 @ 11:19 pm
Wow.. it’s funny how PC users with little to no knowledge about macs like to bash it.. You guys always compare your Windows XP systems to some mac operating system from 10 years ago, the last time you guys ever tried a mac. If you guys have even taken a look at the Mac OS X you would take all of that back in a second. That being said, I have nothing against PCs, I just find the mac interface much more user friendly, and the lack of spyware is really appealing as well.
Comment by malize — 5/7/05 @ 1:03 pm
Ha Ha ha macs do suck more balls then all of you guys. Ha HA Ha ahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha
-Poncho
Comment by Poncho villa — 5/9/05 @ 10:16 am
“Yeah, Macs suck. They don’t come with floppy drives, serial ports, parallel ports and PS/2 ports, Also, the statements that there is no software available for them is totally TRUE. I mean, no one even makes spyware removal apps for the Mac! Duh, hello?”
Floppy drives are outdated (3mb of storage?) and the rest of the stuff it doesn’t need. (serial ports? PS/2 ports? You must be joking). And “No spyware removal apps?” Please. OSX doesn’t even need a spyware removal app.
For all you Mac haters: fine. Don’t use macs. Get your spyware if that’s what makes you happy. It will only make the Mac have a lower user number, which will make hackers not bother writing viruses for the mac.
Ever heard of open source? If any of you actually were cool and knew anything about programming, you would compile your own programs.
You think no outlook express is bad? You should be sent to the insane asylum. OE is sooo vulnerable it isn’t even funny. Ever heard of Mozilla Thunderbird? Opera Mail?
Web developers tired of “Apple’s lack of W3C compliance”? Just take a look at IE. At least Apple doesn’t make up their own standards that only work on one platform, and one platform only. Think flash support on Mac is limited? Your web site should be accessible. That means: no flash. Flash sucks on web pages.
Tired of “lack of games”? Just becuase they aren’t on the shelf at Best Buy or “Software Etc” doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Ever check out the apple store website? There are hundreds of games that are supported by the mac, including both open and closed source.
Macs are space saving. One component, that’s it (well, there’s the PowerMac G5 with a tower, but that’s about it). Ever seen the MiniMac? The iMac? I rest my case.
Oh well, to each his own. Mac has it’s advantages, PC has it’s advantages (which by the way are: it’s easy for preschoolers like you to use and the games for it are easy to find so you don’t have to strain your poor little eyes downloading games on the internet.)
Yes, I am posting this from a PC. This is only because I am at school and they have their mind set on using PCs. Too bad. The only good PC is a PC with Linux.
Comment by Joseph Stalin — 5/10/05 @ 8:13 pm
yes, hearing that macs are better than PC’s is quite hard fact coming from joseph stalin. I just love it when my mac friends come over to my house and drool over my pc because it blows their machines out of the water. and when my pc crashes… wait it hasn’t. Now when their macs crash thats a different story. When a mac crashes they might as well say “your mac has crashed, would you like to talk about it.” and asked them why they bought a mac theonly reason they can come up with is “that it looked cool.” well we all know looks can deceving.
Comment by america — 5/11/05 @ 12:25 am
“My friends come over to drool over my pc because it blows their machines out of the water..” Bullshit, complete and utter bullshit. Unless your machine is a $4000 Alienware workstation or a workstation from dell then you don’t have the spunk to take on a mac. First off what macs do your friends own? If they are single processor g4’s then that’s the bottom of the barrel as far as macs are concern. The g5 imacs are desktop machines that are again single processors and intended as family home computers or high end student pc’s. Now where your screwed is with the Dual G5 powermacs. I you have some piece meal put together home machine you better hang your head in shame and hide your balls if you go up against a powermac with some decent ram in it, cause you’re screwed if you do. Even when the high end workstations do beat macs it is only be 5 seconds! FIVE FUCKIN SECONDS! And then you gotta ask yourself if the money is worth the five second time. My dual 1.8 powermac G5 can go head to head with some of the best workstations out there and only lose by a few seconds. But I paid at least a thousand less for roughly the same power. And dude if you said your pc hasn’t crashed and your running windows (anyversion) you are LYING OUT YOUR ASS! Please say your running Windows 2000 you little service pack 4 junkie. Please oh please just say it.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/11/05 @ 3:11 pm
I am unfortunatly on a G3 MAC at UNI… and it sucks big hairy balls.
how can anyone seriously like a MAC… especially when the letters spell Macs Are Crap! who the fuck buys macs? (apart from idiots!).
all of the software is a watered down, half arsed version of PC software (especially 3D packages) and the system cannot handle files bigger than 50mb at a time, people say that G5 Macs are just as powerful as PC’s? I think not…
my PC at home is running 4gb of DDR RAM with a 400GB harddrive… in other words a MAC = A toilet for my PC as it shits allover the the MAC tower!
I HATE MACS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ Macs dont have a thumbnail preview option… PC’s do.
+Macs control key means right click… the coders were retards, why not supply a 2/3 button mouse? cause they are cheap fucks
+Macs look like roadkill
+Macs speakers are crap and the sound cards are even worse
+the graphics cards are terrible
+CMYK (usually associated with macs) is a crap format that fucks up gradients and colour formats.
theres a few more points for your cool list:D
Comment by GV — 5/12/05 @ 10:33 am
*PS my mega PC that fuckin shits alover you MAC users only cost me 1500 from DELL… PC’s are far better… Face it.
Comment by GV — 5/12/05 @ 10:54 am
And for all those retards that say that macs dont get viruses….
There are 13 Macs in the room I am in now:
3 Macs HAVE VIRUSES that have fucked up the whole network
7 Macs HAVE SPYWARE that is fucking with peoples emails etc.
3 Macs have critical system errors… and guess what, the tech’s cant fix em so there going to flatten the system.
so in other words:
All of the Macs are fucked up by either system or virus problems,
there are 2 PC’s in the room, they are both fine and run 10 times faster than the G5’s sat next to them.
FUCK YOU ALL, TRY AND TALK YOUR WAY OUTA THAT 1!
Comment by GV — 5/12/05 @ 11:04 am
Working on an iMac right now after being forced to switch over from PC. A machine that costs twice as much to perform half as slow, no control over hardware (do you upgrade by cracking the case???), CD stuck in drive (again, gotta crack the case to get it out), weak selection of software and, despite what I’ve been told, no standardization across software titles and just about everything has to be done by mouse! Oh, and you need to *MOUNT A DRIVE* to run new installed software. What a glorious machine. Oh, and all the reasons posted above are complete valid. Basically, if you’re afraid of change and haven’t got one neuron in your tiny little brain willing to try and figure out how to use your machine…go the Mac route. Get fleeced and end up with a nice-looking bookend (yeah, they do look nice, gotta admit that).
Comment by P — 5/13/05 @ 11:58 am
Oh jeez, almost forgot, the folks at Macintosh actually outright *lie* about performance. No kidding…bold-faced lies about what their so-called machines can do. Not to say PCs are perfect but in my short time working side-to-side PC with Mac (about 4 months), the Macs have crashed approximately 4 times as much (stability, yeah right) and have had serious hardware failures. By that I mean -complete- inability to boot, CD stuck in drive (as above) — the brilliant architects at Apple decided that there would be no way to extract a CD other than with a software command (still laughing about that one).
While I’m at it, I’d like to address all of you who are into the iPod thing. First off, I believe pods were the weapons of choice in “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”…changing people to mindless zombies. As with all other Apple products, you have an over-priced, underperforming gadget with a limited feature set and a wonderful penchant for breaking mysteriously (backlight won’t turn off…controls stuck…etc.) Again, the remedy is to throw the thing on the ground and hope that fixes it because Apple sure as hell has no plans to give users any control over their own products. Yes, these were the brave pioneers of the digital rights movement and restricted access to everything and anything. They’ll sue you for discussing their products (and they have in highly public cases). And should you want your pricey hunks fixed (and they will break, as sure as the sun rises tomorrow), be sure to visit the snotty sales reps at the few distribution centres where not only can you expect to pay through the nose for your sin of ever purchasing an Apple product in the first place, but you can also expect to be suckered into buying extra unnecessary addons for your so-called computer because, as stated above, you are the rare intelligencia of this world that simply doesn’t ‘get’ technology and, frankly, doesn’t want to.
For all you PC proponents, while I’m totally on your side I would ask that you not spit vitriol on the Apple-blinded fools. Pity them, the way you would pity someone with a mental disability or a gunshot wound to the head.
Comment by P — 5/13/05 @ 12:12 pm
Okay bitch ( GIV) yes you, you loud mouthed british fuck. Let’s get down to it. Um lets see here… how many viruses do pc’s have out there, um 70,000 and counting… There are only 32 yes… let me repeat that for the slow pc people… 32 known viruses for the mac. EAT IT AND DIE. Oh and I’m supposed to be impressed by a single processor dell computer with 4 gigs and a 400 gig hard drive…oooh I’m shaking in my boots, oh my. Your pc sucks because the operating system is shit… I bet you didn’t get crap for software when you bought that dell toilet did you, in fact I’m looking at the website right now and I know you didn’t get shit. 1500 british pounds sterling for that crap… you got fucked my friend. That’s over 2,700 for us americans. My “dual processor” ..yes that’s right , it has two of them so EAT IT AND DIE… 1.8ghz (once again for the stupid that means two 1.8ghz processors) G5 only cost me around 1,900 american. And if your wondering about power here’s a snippet from amazon about some tests they performed on my model machine
oes It In Double-Time
The PowerPC G5 processor dramatically accelerates performance in real world applications. When compared head-to-head against PCs in a large series of Photoshop tests, the dual 1.8GHz Power Mac G5 system ran the 45 filters 66% faster than the 3.4GHz Pentium 4-based system, and 48% faster than the dual 3.2GHz Xeon-based system. Additional performance tests reveal similar performance gains for professional film, video, music and audio creation, and scientific analysis of genetic research.
There you go bitch….Take your fuckin dell and choke on it you Bill gates suckin, Pentium fuckin , Windows monkey!!!!!GOD FUCK THE QUEEN!!!!
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/13/05 @ 3:15 pm
Lets face it…pc’s suck balls. If the only thing you can bitch about on a mac is getting a cd stuck then you should fucking grow up. ” oh no I got a cd stuck, macs suck. I mean I get one cd stuck but it doesn’t crash for no reason like my pc or pick up three viruses a day and I don’t have to get a patch every week to make the OS keep working, nor do I need to worry about the OS degrading like I do with XP but still the cd got stuck so macs must suck” Shut up you whiney little bitches. You’re all a bunch of gamer fucks anyway so keep your little dells and gateways and shut up. And from now on if you’re gonna diss a mac then at least give the model of it. I’m wiling to bet dollars to fucking doughuts that the macs you’re running are G3’s and that means they are almost ten fucking years OLD! Try running todays operating system on a pcs that is nearly ten years old…. oh yeah thats right YOU CAN’T! Shut up you retards!
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/13/05 @ 3:27 pm
My pc rocks. All you mac turds should go flush yourselves. I’m going home to beat my wife, Focker out,
Comment by chris — 5/14/05 @ 2:33 am
I recently bought an ibook, mainly for photos, movies, and schoolwork. So far, I like it. I have a Dell for a desktop, and will probably always have some sort of pc for my desktop. I like pcs and macs, macs mainly because I heard they were good for video editing, and so far, I agree. I think that we should all just be thankful that the monopoly that is microsoft has something out there to compete with, even though a lot of microsoft programs have been made to work with macs and have therefore given them more business. I hope that everyone will diversify themselves at one point in their lives and at least know how to use both computers. but whatever.
Comment by Kevin — 5/14/05 @ 6:40 pm
Bobo the space monkey – learn to read… its GV not GIV you stupid idiot. oh and…. yes… I hope god does fuck the queen, or maybe george wanker bush can bomb her when he finds the big red button.
yip…. my PC can shit all over your stupid MACS, and ohh wooww photoshop… im so amazed… how about 3D packages that require good machines to run? Ive worked on G5’s with Maya (3D package you stupid tit) and Cinema 4D (another 3D package you stupid tit) and they both crash when loading large files…. my PC runs them straight off.
in summary…. and i’ll say this slowly so your small American brain can understand it….
MACS
ARE
SHIT !
Comment by GV - not 'GIV' — 5/16/05 @ 10:16 am
“32 known viruses”
yes and thats something to be proud of why??????
1 virus is enough to kill your MAC…. face it.
+ thats just “know Viruses”, how about all the ones that are still being found hmmm?
get a life and buy a PC
Comment by GV - not 'GIV' — 5/16/05 @ 10:19 am
Gv you british inbred fuck, I should bitch slap you and improve your crooked british fuckin smile. You and your pc are shit, go ahead and ask anyone in the industry and they will tell you they run macs, pc’s suck balls and they will always suck balls. The world you live in does not exist you limey fuckin bastard. And yes 32 known viruses is something to be proud of considering the thousands that can hack apart you’re silly fuckin OS you wanker! That says something about the stability of the mac operating system and how hard it is to capitalize on any securtiy flaws! Shut you’re bloody hole and realize that mac’s are the shit and you are a piece of shit. You fuckin’ slag!
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/16/05 @ 9:21 pm
Here’s a site for ya to mull over you limey prick http://www.computerjokes.net/151.htm and this one http://www.webspawner.com/users/macsarebest/ and finally the best article of them all http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/01/29/fbi/index.php to take that and smoke it you greasy haired spotted dick eating shmuck!!
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/16/05 @ 9:38 pm
By the way numb nuts what processors are you running in your dell toilet, how much ram, and what video card? I’m fishin for something and I’m willing to bet you’re a lying piece of shit.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/16/05 @ 9:52 pm
ok bobo the shit head…. you still cant type… its GV not Gv.
I am running a specially built Dell:
Pentium 4
4GB DDR RAM,
400GB Hard drive
Duel 256mb Graphics Card (voodoo)
that enough info for ya you stupid cunt?
PS not that your shit mac could, but, if your trying to trace my IP it will come to a shitty G3 mac at the University of Sunderland, I wouldnt waste my time at home on yankee shit like you.
OOh and yes in the industry they do use PC’s over macs… I had to visit 10+ companies in London as part of a project, and yes… all of them using PC’s for more power to run the animation software, they had tried macs and they couldnt handle it. so fuck you ya stupid cunt!
since you hate the brits so much you should probably change your name… Bobo the space monkey, GTA ref, GTA is made in the UK.
I dont hate Americans, hey, alota cool shit over there! but your to occupied sucking your mothers tits to even know what an American looks like!
oh and yeah… MACs are the shit….. the big steaming pile of shit that my computer just left in the toilet:)
again let me spell this slowly for your tiny brain to understand:
THIS
FORUM
WAS
STARTED
BY
PEOPLE
WHO
HATE
MACS!
why the fuck are you fighting this, you cant win! the facts are there, the room I am in has a powerful PC and a G5 side by side, the PC is fast as fuck at everything and never crashes, the MAC is always slow and always has critical system errors.
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Comment by GV - not 'Gv — 5/18/05 @ 4:49 am
*PS* “you greasy haired spotted dick eating shmuck!!” – what the fuck, you still livin in the fuckin 50’s?
spotted dick – I dont wanna know what the fuck you dads dick looks like when your done with it thanks.
Shmuck – learn a good insult… how about “yankee insest created, family fuckin, anal lover”?? sing along kidy!
get a life you sad cunt, hide behind your pussy Mac sucking your mothers tits and go to a forum that gives a fuck
Comment by GV - not 'Gv — 5/18/05 @ 4:58 am
Umm…I’m not British, first of all. Secondly, yes, you’re right, PCs have a lot more viruses than Macs. The reason is because PC specs are open and so (fortunately or unfortunately) they are more easy to hack. That having been said, Macs simply are *not* faster than comparable PCs. Also, that $1900 US for a dual-processor Mac is an outrageous price.
But…who cares. Delude yourself. Keep to your religious fanaticism (religion is, after all, blind faith…with emphasis on ‘blind’). Facts are facts and you are simply wrong.
Comment by P — 5/18/05 @ 12:41 pm
Bobo,
Thos articles are interesting but don’t give any credence to Mac. The FBI spent millions on a system to bring together their disparate systems and the project failed miserably because they really had no idea what they were getting into. That may explain why they use Macs. The other article you mention spell out these points, which are also quite amusing:
* Intel uses Macs
And Apple uses PCs.
* PC Week uses Macs
Well, yes. Most offices have at least one inbred employee that can’t wrap his/her head around working with a computer and using more than one finger at a time.
* The cool “waah” sound at startup.
That’s the worst reason I’ve ever heard.
* 40 viruses, not 38000.
AKA. no software
* No one says “I work on a Mac at the office but I have a PC at home because it’s so much fun to use.
I do. At least there’s something fun to do with my PC. Mac games are, ahem, limited.
* MacAddict
Clueless
* Star Wars Special Edition – made on a Mac
Yes. I’m sure a single Mac made an entire motion picture. Maybe it was used to burn the disc.
* Star Wars Episode 1 – made on a Mac.
With no floating point processor, 3D is virtually absent from a Mac…unless you have a few weeks ready to render a simple scene.
* Babylon 5, Lost in Space, Star Trek TNG, Star Trek Voyager, Star Trek DS9, Star Trek’s 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 & 9, Dark Skies, Xena: Warrier Princess, The X-Files, Goldeneye, Tommorow Never Dies, The World is Not Enough, Sliders, Contact, Mortal Combat, Men in Black, Spawn, Titanic, Herculies, AND LOADS LOADS MORE.
Okay, so you can’t spell. Aside from that, however, just cause there’s a single Mac in a sea of PCs doesn’t make it the only Mac. But you Mac people tend to be so myopic.
* Bill Gates’ mansion was designed on a Mac
And the 3D model created on a PC. That’s about the level of complexity of a Mac to a PC.
* If you have a paperclip, you can probably fix your Mac
Is the Mac really such a simple machine? Well, try to get your stuck CD out…or in fact, what the hell can you fix on a Mac with a paperclip?
* Macs don’t have the infamous Windows key to accidentally hit and throw you out of your application into Windows, often causing the program to freeze
No, they have the Apple (command) key which often closes your window which is much more dangerous. And the rest of the statement is a flat out lie.
* FREE speech recognition software (as opposed to the less sophisticated, $300 system as offered by Microsoft)
Ummm, speech recognition comes standard on a Windows XP PC…included FOR FREE…and based on speech recognition software which was initially developed on a PC.
* The first Pentium commercials were done on (pre-Power PC!!) Macs since they couldn’t get PC’s to perform at that speed.
Non-realtime renderd video. No, PCs can’t work that slow.
* Apple servers are about four times faster than Win NT 4.0 servers with equivalent clock speed processors
Okay, I have to admit that Apple servers are pretty good. But again they face a lack of server software so, despite actually living up to their stated specs (unlike other Apple products), they’re very limited in their application.
* Windows 95 requires illegal narcotics in order to enjoy it’s graphical interface.
Once again, the Apple OS is a lot more eye-candy than Win 95. However, the year is 2005 and Windows is considerably more customizable than Macs. In fact, anything a Mac can do Windows can do (and better). Check out Yz dock, Windowblinds, etc. Can your Mac do that?
* None of those Internet Explorer “exploding desktop” bugs.
Not sure what that’s supposed to be. Never heard of it or experienced it. Another Apple fairy tale.
* “DOS Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and millions of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that
cockroaches are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form.”
Aluding to cockroaches doesn’t make the Mac better. It just makes a weak connection backed up by nothing other than the use of language. Ask yourself, if PCs are so bad, why have they been adopted in such large numbers?
* Built-in sound, with no need to install, configure, or troubleshoot a “SoundWhacker” card.
Again, just outdated. But just to humour the argument…better that I can upgrade my sound card than have it perpetually built in. Seems Mac users really enjoy bowing down to their corporate masters. Why else would you agree to be enslaved by a completely closed off and static technology set? If you have half a brain you can upgrade a sound card. Enough said.
* Long file names on CD-ROMs (Windows CD-ROMs use the ISO 9660 format which is limited to eight character file names, even with Windows 95.)
Again…is this the most recent argument you can make? Simply not true. And BTW, Mac also uses that format since it’s a standard.
So, a bunch of spurious, false, misleading, mispelled, and ocassionally delusional arguments. That the best you can come up with?
Comment by P — 5/18/05 @ 1:44 pm
Kevin,
You do make a good point. Everyne should try and diversify. If you get a chance to try an honest comparison between a Mac and PC, by all means do it. I have and that’s how I cam to the conclusions that I have. Not saying that Mac won’t get better in the future, but I’m certainly not impressed with the current incarnation. I guess it depends on what you’re looking for in your computer. If, for example, you never need to do anything other than edit some documents and maybe do some image manipulation or page layouts, you may not notice the shortcomings of a Mac. Also, if you’re not concerned about how much you spend on your computer, you won’t bat an eyelash at the price differences.
I look at Macs like the designer fashions of the computing world. Basically, you are paying for the name. The price in no way reflects quality, power, or versatility.
Whether or not you use a Mac, keep an open mind and try to do a side-by-side comparison. Otherwise you just end up descending into a name-calling free-for-all like a good chunk of this discussion.
Comment by P — 5/18/05 @ 1:53 pm
BTW, Bobo, I’m on a G5 with a gig of RAM. Should be powerful but still runs as fast as my no-name 500Mhz PC with 256 megs RAM. Straight-out fact.
Comment by P — 5/18/05 @ 1:55 pm
P – you speak the truth, good man:D
Comment by GV - not 'Gv — 5/19/05 @ 4:07 am
You rock, P!
Tell it like it is.
http://umdrive.memphis.edu/lfossett/public/apple.wmv
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 5/19/05 @ 3:53 pm
http://umdrive.memphis.edu/lfossett/public/whymacssuck.wmv
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 5/19/05 @ 10:37 pm
Okay P…or should I call you Wizz or how about tinkle? LIsten up fuck nuts when it comes to nuts and bolts Macs can run head to head with pc’s and in the video editing /photoshop department macs kick pc’s asses hands down. Go to any expert and he will tell you. Now the slowness of a mac on 3d rendering that you speak of is bullshit. Here’s a link for ya http://www.barefeats.com/maya.html and you wil see that the dual 2.5ghz powermacs lose to the dual 3.4ghz workstation by only a few seconds. SECONDS asshole!!!! I’m not saying that a program will never quit for no reason on a mac ( BUT THAT SHIT IS WAAAY TO COMMON ON A PC) but I have never …let me say it again for you motherfuckers in the cheap seats…never had my macs freeze up on me for no goddamn reason the way I’ve had pc’s take a fuckin shit trying to do simple stuff. I mean for christ sake a pc should freeze up just because I’m trying to view a video from JAPPERWHORE.COM !!!! And for all you modding cocksuckers out there I have something to say for you. You can upgrade a mac, but for the adverage consumer you don’t need to. Now why isn’t it that way on a pc. Why the fuck must you keep upgrading the goddamn thing every fuckin year just to get it to work??!!! Is this what you call a superior system? And for all you people out there who are saying you’ve never had a problem with windows, you are all fuckin liars. Windows is shit and it breaks down, degrades and catches viruses like a cheap french whore. I can guarantee that everyone in this room who owns a ” Windows box” has had to reinstall windows and lost data due to corruption. A mac is like a mercedes benz to a pc’s ford. Macs have always innovated where pc’s have lagged behind. Now for you fuckers who think that a mac is too expensive I seem to recall that it wasn’t but five years ago paying 1200 for a pc was considered an adverage price. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP! And anyone who is interested in purchasing a hp workstation here’s the link and notice the price ttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/361798-REG/HP_Hewlett_Packard_XW8200_Dual_Xeon_3_4GHz.html that’s nearly $4500 dollars for what you could get through apple ( yes check out the specks at http://www.apple.com you lazy fucks) for a dual 2.7ghz machine. AND FOR ALL YOU GAMING FUCKS. YOU ARE COMPLETE LOSERS TO SPEND THAT MUCH FUCKIN MONEY FOR A GAME MACHINE! BUY A FUCKIN XBOX OR GAME CUBE FOR FUCKS SAKE YOU LOSERS! And lack of software??? What are you smoking ( and send me to your dealer)? If your talking about cheap crap software then yes apple doesn’t have it. But if you want good reliable apps and programs then there are plenty to go around on the mac side.
Here’s a joke before I go. The only time Microsoft will make a product that doesn’t suck is when it makes a vacuum cleaner.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 5/20/05 @ 1:12 am
Another profanity filled and fact absent post by a “Mac enthusiast”.
Sheesh…
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 5/20/05 @ 12:50 pm
Nice site leshaun, you’re obviously gay.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 5/20/05 @ 1:57 pm
Nope. I don’t use macs, so that excludes me from being an ass pirate like yourself.
You’re probably a star wars fan, too.
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 5/20/05 @ 2:53 pm
OSX is the biggest rip-off in computer history.
Crapple sells you a $500 computer (with no keyboard, mosue or monitor, BTW), and “updates” the OS every few months.
Here’s the catch: each update costs about $100.
In all honesty, XP isn’t perfect, but I don’t have to buy a new version of it every month.
And OSX is just BSD (a free OS) modified to run on PowerPCs (which are made by IBM, the irony!). Mac users pride themselves as being free thinkers who “Think different”. I was using FreeBSD back in the ’90s!!! Does that make me a mac user?
Huh?
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 5/20/05 @ 3:02 pm
Using a mac for so long has impared “bobo’s” ability to properly use the English language.
So kiddies, stay away from the crystal meth and also the macs. A deadly combination like that can fry your brain in a matter of days.
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 5/20/05 @ 3:15 pm
How much do you wanna bet that Fidel Castro, Kim Jung Ill, Osama Bin Laden, the Ayatola and Saddam Hussein are mac users?
Now that “Axis of Evil” stuff is starting to make since…
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 5/20/05 @ 3:18 pm
Please, and what kinda name is Leshaun for god’s sake. I mean fuck man that is the worst ebonics named I’ve heard in a long time. And the OS updates that cost you money..um hmm I have OSX panther and when I got it it was 10.3.1 and I’ve updated it to 10.3.9 and it didn’t cost me a dime. Wow what an idiot you are. And the gay thing, you are gay. To quote your website, you like the eighties( big hair and men wearing makeup) , you like studying mormon history, you collect magazines like “Vanity Fair” and one of your favorite movies is Blue velvet. Yeah , you are a closet pole smoker. It’s okay man, just go ahead and come out of there and start suckin the way your pc does.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 5/21/05 @ 2:32 am
Hmm,,,you keep hitting a MAN’S website (you have visited my site at least 3 times this week), compile information about him, and you’re calling ME gay?
cpe-24-95-38-248.columbus.res.rr.com is where you live on the internet (Meep meep).
How old are you? 12?
You see, parents, this is why you should keep your children away from Macs. They turn you into closet homosexual space monkies who wait in line 6 weeks for Star Wars tickets.
As stated earlier, you have visited my webpage 3 times…why? It’s not like there is tons of info on it. I have to question your mental capacities.
Why are you so obsessed with gay people? Do you wish I was gay like you?
You know what they say: the person who often accuses someone of being gay is usually gay themselves (this is the 2nd time).
But you’re a Mac user, so who the hell can tell the difference?
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 5/21/05 @ 9:32 am
POOOOOLLLLLLLEEEEE SMMOOOOOOKKKKERRRRR
Yeah I visited your site three times, the first was to gather info and the second was to show a couple of my friends what fag you are. But that is neither here nor there. Anyway I’m glad to say that although this blog has been fun and I’ve had way to many laughs at you idiots I’m gonna have to get on outta here. Pc’s suck and so do you leshaniqua or whatever the fuck your name is.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 5/21/05 @ 2:35 pm
Leshaun Fossett– you are fucking stupid
1) Apple doesn’t upgrade every month… period.
2). Can’t you afford a fucking $10.00 keyboard/mouse.
3). The Mac mini is Marketed for PC users who already have the accesories and is switching to a Mac.
4). and yes, it’s a fact, that the MacOX is 100X better than Windows and most people are “NOT” techinically inclined to install Linux on a PC, so they buy Apple Mac , which is fully Supported by Apple and no seaching for 3rd party drivers, which most companies do not supply.
4). If you don’t like Mac, don’t fucking buy it and critizes it. Alot of people love Macs, with far more intelligence than you.
Comment by Steve Jobs — 5/21/05 @ 5:34 pm
Oh yeah Mr. Fossett, Apple is not forcing your to upgrade and Microsoft charges more for the latest upgrade which was all garbage.
Comment by Steve Jobs — 5/21/05 @ 5:39 pm
Lines of code…… Hey leshaun the reason one should give a shit about lines of Code is that with the ” bloating” that microsoft does whenever there is a new OS release it forces people to upgrade their machines to a faster processor that can handle it. This is Microsofts way of scratching Intel’s back and vice versa. Do you realize that today’s linux OS’s can run perfectly well on an old 486.. I guess that when you’ve sucked the Microcock as long as you then you just stop asking why and just start asking for more.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 5/21/05 @ 9:27 pm
“on 3d rendering that you speak of is bullshit. Here’s a link for ya http://www.barefeats.com/maya.html and you wil see that the dual 2.5ghz powermacs lose to the dual 3.4ghz workstation by only a few seconds. SECONDS asshole!!!!”
erm….Ok bobo the shit stain,… whatever you say! like I said before… the University runs a G5 and a Dell side by side… guess which one wins….hmmm…. GIVE UP? its the PC you retarded piece of donky shit. the G5 is actually 24seconds SLOWER than the PC, thats in a real life environment test… not the bullshit studio tests that Maya carry out in order to sell the Maya package to RETARDED MAC USERS, guess what, the Maya package for the Mac costs just as much, but doesnt come with even half of the features…. so I wonder why they try and boast its better on the Mac… possibly to brainwash RETARDED FUCKS LIKE YOU INTO BUYING IT!
go fuck yourself Bobo,
PS see your still going by the name “bobo the space monkey”, ref to GTA, thought you hated Brits? GTA is made in the UK asshole.
Comment by GV — 5/23/05 @ 12:19 pm
“Steve Jobs” – Microsoft dont charge for upgrades you thick retarded anal cunt. but you wouldnt know that cause your too busy waiting for your Mac to start up…. just keep waiting… any second now…
Comment by GV — 5/23/05 @ 12:21 pm
OKAY,
i own 2 home built pcs and a home built mac. my parents are rich and got the best of the best, they all have 2 gigs of ram and i will tell you one thing i hate that god damn fucking little mouse for the macs, and they always freeze, i admit i have never had a virus on my mac but i cant stand using it i much rather go with a crapy pc then any mac.
Comment by Macs suck really bad — 5/23/05 @ 1:20 pm
“They always freeze…..” the programs or the computers. I’ve had programs lock up but you can always force quite anything. Even if macs freeze they don’t do so with the regularity of pcs. And you can hook any mouse into a fuckin mac you dipshit, you don’t have to use the one they came with. JESUS CHRIST what MORONS!
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/24/05 @ 2:19 pm
bobo – “I’ve had programs lock up but you can always force quite anything. Even if macs freeze they don’t do so with the regularity of pcs”
aha, on a PC its called the task manager… and it always works…. unlike the shitty ‘Force Quit’ on a Mac….
PS the PC’s hardly ever freeze on me… the G5’s freeze at least once EVERYTIME I use them… and thats everyday at University… fucking Moron!
Comment by GV - not 'Gv — 5/25/05 @ 7:03 am
Well Bobo and Steve,
I understand your need to defend the Mac. After all, I too would be bothered to have spent that much money and then have people tell me it’s crap.
Yes, it does run on BSD, so what the hell did the people at Apple do to the OS to make it so slow? I really can’t imagine the hardware would chug so badly by itself. Motorola, despite being a bit of a pariah in the chip world, makes decent processors.
As for all the other facts you mentioned…simply not true. The thing that makes PCs faster at most tasks is the Floating Point processor which can do calculations of decimal point numbers much faster (for example, 3D transformations, video re-rendering, etc.) The Mac has to emulate this through software and it’s simply not possible for it to be as fast as hardware calculations.
As for freezing, I can’t say PCs are too different from Macs. However, PCs typically freeze through rogue applications. Macs freeze up through the OS which, IMHO is much worse. For example, I was using the finder to attempt to open a file with another application than the default. I right-clicked (adaptation from PCs) on the file, and the Mac froze. Finder didn’t work, the dock wouldn’t work, and windows wouldn’t move. There was no quick and simple way (ie. CTRL-ALT-DEL) to kill the process and since it was an OS error it affected the whole system.
Bobo, you’re right, you can hook up any mouse to a Mac. So do you use the wonderful one-button mouse or the PC three-button-wheel mouse?
The Mac mouse, to me, exemplifies the amount of thought that went into the design of the Macintosh. It had a lot of possibility but it just went down the tubes. I don’t want to demonize the folks at Apple (necessarily) because I suspect it’s the megalomaniacal direction of Steve Jobs that pushed the Mac to the brink of uselessness.
Finally, Photoshop and Premiere work well on a Mac. Yes, it’s true. Like I said in a previous post, if this is what you want out of your computer -and nothing else- then the Mac is for you. If you expect functionality, expandability, versatility, value, and performance, the Mac is simply not up to the job.
Still working on a Mac…still hating it,
P
Comment by P — 5/25/05 @ 12:28 pm
Bobo,
You also mentioned that Linux can run on an old 486. Why do I need a G4 to ‘handle’ this latest and greatest OS adaptation (unix-based OSX) from Apple then?!? Man alive, man, do you even read your own posts? Basically, you are saying that the current incarnation of a Mac is as powerful as a 486 PC.
Still working on a Mac…and…yada yada,
P
Comment by P — 5/25/05 @ 12:35 pm
If you run a pc I hope you’re running linux at least. Cause when you speak of functionality and value yadda yadda in the same sentence with microsuck then you’re out of your damn mind. Macs are expandable you can upgrade G3’s to G4’s and such. You can uprgrade the hard drives in a mac , graphics cards, sound cards, ram, and even the processors of older models. So what is this limitation you speak of? On what fuckin planet are macs so isolated that as soon as you get one you’re fucked for life and can’t upgrade? What are you smoking? And GV if you open your stupid pie hole again………. What fuckin mac are you running, I want specs post them here asshole. I want ram, processor, OS, everything. You have got to be full of shit. And P that freeze is the freekiest thing I have ever heard. A struck by lightning moment that won’t repeat is all I can say. But can you say with a straight face that your pc hasn’t “froze for no reason” in the past. And don’t compare OS X with fuckin XP there is no comparing a good OS to a hack job that just keeps falling apart. I don’t have a three button mouse because I’m not that lazy to just hit control then click on the shit that requires it. Postal 2 is the inspiration for bobo, a funny game no matter what platform is what made on. You need a G4 to handle OS X tiger because they changed the kernel to one that is different from panther, tiger uses more memory/processor for some of the apps that it came with, like spotlight and automater. In the past though you could run OS X panther on G3’s even first generation imacs!!! You know for working on a mac you don’t know shit.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/25/05 @ 3:26 pm
who believes all this? macs don’t suck, they just aren’t good. it’s msn search that sucks.
ok, so they can’t go on the internet or view images, what’s the big deal? at least they aren’t popular enough to get viruses.
Comment by some bozo — 5/25/05 @ 3:31 pm
Actually the mac mouse is doesn’t need the three buttons when you consider the drag and drop functionality of the entire OS X system. You can drag and drop literally anything and everything you want. And what you can’t do then you can use the keyboard shortcuts( that I’m sure are even availible for pc users) to handle the ” edit copy/paste,save as, close, etc..” shit that another mouse button would do. Some programs such as “shake 3.5″ require three button mouses and then it’s not that big a deal to go buy a $10.00 usb mouse and fuckin use it. Jesus christ, don’t go bitching on such a small fucking point. I’m in here talking about function, stability, performance and you got people fuckin whining about a mouse!!! Those of you out there that hate apple design better get ready because Sony is already copying the imac design and dell has started to make it’s laptops look like the powerbook line that apple sells. There’s no reason you can’t have form and function, look at bmw’s ,mercedes, ferrari,and even volkswagen. They all have performance and style. Why can’t a computer ???
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/25/05 @ 3:36 pm
Oh and GV piss off, fix your teeth, ungrease your hair, and stop suckin the microcock you limey bastard. I kinda figured you’d be disappointed without a personal jab thrown in the mix.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/25/05 @ 3:39 pm
Well Bobo, I gotta aagree with you on the style issue. Macs definitely look better than most generic PCs. That’s not to say that PCs can’t be styled up:
http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/cases/compucase_tower/
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=1510
etc. You get the idea.
And your statement about a computer having style and power is also true. Why shouldn’t we have both? So, bemoaning a one-button mouse is definitely not worth harping on, but I simply can’t say that the Mac performs better than a PC. It simply does not (with a few exceptions…see previous posts).
Now, you do mention Microsoft quite a bit and that is definitely a sore point with a lot of PC users. No, Microsoft isn’t all that and they could improve in a lot of ways. Stability was an issue but I can say without hesitation that on Windows XP at least that seems to have been addressed fairly well. When you stop to consider how many disparate pieces of software the OS has to handle, it’s actually a pretty robust system. But again, I’m not siding with Microsoft because they have a ways to go. However, I could easily put Linux, BEOs, or other such operating system on a PC. I could share the machine between XP and some other OS. I’ve yet to read anyone using any other operating system than Apple’s on a Mac.
One of your statements struck me as funny:
“You need a G4 to handle OS X tiger because they changed the kernel to one that is different from panther, tiger uses more memory/processor for some of the apps that it came with”
So, this is basically what I was saying before. Apple took a very fast OS and made it slow. With Tiger, they took (from what you say) existing applications and bloated them further.
You’re right, Bobo, I don’t know much about Macs. I’ve shunned them and now that I’m working on one I feel justified. Look, it’s not a totally useless machine and obviously some thought went into the look. It certainly works faster than a lot of older PCs and it is relatively stable. The interface is pretty although clumsy (dock obscures windows unless you hide it, button functions not visible unless rolled over for some reason, etc.). And, even though there are certainly keyboard shortcuts to *some* menu items, with Windows you can use almost every aspect of the application without a mouse. The Mac without a mouse is pretty well useless. Again, not to harp on the mouse thing but this philosophy permeates the entire Apple philosophy which seems to be “do it our way or f*** off”.
My point is, and I’m afraid you can’t sway me from this opinion, that for the money you pay the Mac is woefully inadequate. You can say it until you’re blue in the face but specs do not make a fast machine and the Mac is a shining example of that. On the Windows platform, I’d be willing to bet there’s a ratio of at least 20:1 of hardware support and software available, and having been in my industry for as long as I have I can trace it directly back to Apple’s agressively protectionist policies (against its own proponents, no less). Apple attempted to rectify this with the introduction of the PowerPC but then Steve Jobs came back to his old position and quashed any hopes of anything other than marginal industry adoption for the Apple line. Currently the only contender appears to be Apple’s server line and I’m waiting for the day when Jobs starts suing people for installing software other than that sanctified by the mighty pope of Macintosh himself.
Despite sounding like it, I don’t have a hate on for Macs. I really couldn’t care either way so long as I don’t have to lay ut my own cash for one. I’m a pragmatic utilitarian first and foremost. I wouldn’t buy a Lamborghini with the perfomance of a Pinto just for the looks, and especially not if that Lamborghini was being sold for regular Lamborghini prices.
I too hope that performance, function, and looks meet in a single package. Thus far, the PC (as long as you’re willing to make modifications) is the closest thing I’ve found. The Mac is currently a far second.
Comment by P — 5/26/05 @ 10:57 am
Bozo:
“who believes all this? macs don’t suck, they just aren’t good. it’s msn search that sucks.
ok, so they can’t go on the internet or view images, what’s the big deal? at least they aren’t popular enough to get viruses. ”
Hehehe. I’m curious to see if anyone will dignify this with a response.
Comment by P — 5/26/05 @ 11:02 am
Well P I’m not gonna convince anyone here or convert them. When it comes to brand loyalty it all comes down to personal experience and I’ve had great experiences on macs and horrible, shitty, just down right nasty experiences on pc’s. As for the keyboard short cuts here’s a list for ya just incase you need to know ( all the letters are preceeded by pressing the apple button/control) c-copy,v-paste,s-save,a-select all, n-insert new or new,o-open,w-close window,q-quite,z-undo,f-find,i-info,?-apple help,q-quit, d-new bookmark, h-hide, +-make text bigger, ( minus -) -make text smaller. I’m sure these are all availible on a pc as well but just incase you didn’t know what your mac could do there is the list.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 5/27/05 @ 12:23 am
PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor
Built-in FireWire
At least 256MB of physical RAM
A built-in display or a display connected to an Apple-supplied video card supported by your computer
At least 3.0 GB of available space on your hard drive; 4GB of disk space if you install XCode 2 developer tools
DVD drive for installation (get CD media for $9.95) I was wrong on the tiger compatibility. These are the specs. So someone with a powermac G4 or G3 can run tiger. They would preferr a G5 because of it being a 64bit processor and tiger has 64 bit libraries for that. Those specs mean that even 64 cubes and slot loading imacs can run tiger.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 5/27/05 @ 11:31 am
g4 cubes, slot loading imacs, g3 ibooks ( clamshells) , g3 powerbooks, powermac g3’s , powermac g4’s they all can take tiger
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 5/28/05 @ 2:02 am
Ever hear of open-source? That’s why there’s not many viruses. Mac’s arn’t used much? Combine the open-source titles underneath the system and look around and see how many people use them. Linux, BSD, FreeBSD, Mach 3.0, all open-source. Face it, OS X doesn’t suck under the hood. Aqua is nice but the interface has issues. Can you see under the hood of your XP? Can you modify it? Can it beat the uptime of BSD machines? Look at large scale banks, government agencies, etc, they use a form of BSD or UNIX, not Linux and not Windows. Mach is questionable, yes. They are sexy machnes. Yes. They cost too much. Yes. How long did your last bargain basement pc last? How long did your gamer pc last before you had to add more money for ram and space? Games not on mac? Yes, true… but yet again Billy caused this game monopoly to stick to Windows, due to the easiness of his insecure API’s. Shared Source initiative? (MS) Complete ripoff of open-source. How can you support either companies really? Bottom line, all pc’s have problems, you can’t compare them. Maybe if you truely want a productive machine, you’ll make your own, maybe not. This site is a joke, it’s a phun. Deal with it and move on. Nothing to see here.
I’m typing this from a x86 box running Crux 2.1 and highly optimized packages and Links. Whoopty doo! It’s an old machine, and it’s not running Windows or Mac OS. Deal with it!
Comment by James COrnell — 5/28/05 @ 10:53 pm
http://www.apple-history.com/frames/ A great site that shows apples history and innovations. 1983 apple computers had a graphical interface!!! HOT DAMN.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/29/05 @ 1:22 am
Yup, Apples was the first to use a Windows-like interface (I think they may have used the term first). However, it was actually Xerox PARC that created the idea (and completely failed to act on it).
I would still like to be able to access the main menu of any application via a shortcut. Is there a way to do that? Also, is there anything equivalent to CTRL-ALT-DEL? I noticed CMD-W closes most windows…that’ss useful. Are there any other tricks and tips you may have?
Bobo, I use those shortcuts too
Like I said, can’t profess love for the Mac but I might as well squeeze every last drop of functionality out of it if I have to work on one. Apparently I’m going to be hooked up with the latest and greatest in Apple technology in the next few days as well as Tiger so I’m curious to see what changes have been made.
Comment by P — 5/30/05 @ 11:37 am
James,
Actually, you can see under the hood of XP. I’m not familiar with the granularity of Linux system software so I’m not going to pretend like I can compare the two, but with XP I feel I have pretty good control over the system. For example, my PC was running pretty sluggish (500Mhz with 256 megs RAM-dang!) so I was able to see which processes were slowing down the system. I was able to see which processes were spawned by others so that I could work my way up the tree and kill the main offending process. I also turned it off until I explicitly chose to turn it on. I can open up the registry and see what exactly is being loaded into my machine at startup and remove any unwanted items. Despite my machine being an ancient beast, XP actually runs decently (a touch slower than 98). I haven’t done application development any many many years so I haven’t had a chance to explore how system hooks or hardware/software interrupts are dealt with. However, on Win98 the OS captured all of these potentially dangerous software activities and, at the very worst, graciously declined access to such function (in a way that my software would still work, just in a limited way).
You’re right on your last point, people take this whole debate way to seriously. Still, sometimes it’s fun to be a shit-disturber, no?
Comment by P — 5/30/05 @ 11:46 am
Well, got the newest G5 in with Tiger installed. Specs include:
2 Ghz processor
1 GB RAM
128-MB 3D-accelerated video card
150 GB HDD
Cost: CDN$2800
We didn’t have enough spare desks so I’m literally running the new machine side-to-side with a Dell PC. Specs include:
Windows XP SP2
2.8 Ghz CPU
500 Mb RAM
Standard Video Card
60 GB HDD
Cost: CDN$1300
They’re not exactly even, I know, but they are *roughly* comparable (cost aside). You bet I will be posting reviews.
Comment by P — 5/30/05 @ 5:31 pm
From what I can understand in the windows world you only use control-alt-delete when everything has frozen up and you can’t quite an application. Correct me if I’m wrong. Force quite works for all applications on a mac. Apple q(quit) works to regularly quit and application. If you mac has indeed frozen on you then you do a hard shut down. Just hold the power button until it turns itself off. That is the mac equivalent of a ctrl alt del. Apple comma will let you access the preferences menu of any application. It that is what you mean by the main menu. Anything else the short cuts can take care of.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 5/30/05 @ 11:37 pm
hello, i just have one comment: “Macs are the most undeniable cause of cancer and other types of malignant diseases not known to human kind. Macs are probably what future nations will offer us after the nuclear holocaust when we are still living. Macs will then secrete their evil juices that make you have diarheaa and acid reflux, and with the ever-decreasing amount of Perplexin, we will die from erosion in our esophaguses or the one type of annurism that only a mac user will encounter. By the way i am typing this on a mac and i fell nothqbkhgj13guigcn rgcghuiorseig3rgyu
(I DIED)
Comment by Bob McCarthy — 5/31/05 @ 8:12 am
Bobo – “Well, got the newest G5 in with Tiger installed. Specs include:
2 Ghz processor
1 GB RAM
128-MB 3D-accelerated video card
150 GB HDD
Cost: CDN$2800″
thats reason enough to prove macs are shite…
secondly “force quite” doest always work… infact it makes the mac freeze even more….
Task Manager …. go into processes and end whichever one you like… it always works instantly… not that I ever really need it apart from if Im on an old system.
so fuck you Bobo the anal monkey….
greased back hair???… I have long hair… ever seen Zakk Wylde? well I look like him… do a search…although it might take awhile on your shite mac.
Sucking cock is something you would know all about isnt it… afterall your too busy sucking your inbread farthers cock…”whos the daddy” bet you get that shouted at you plenty do you…haha fuck you
Comment by GV - not 'Gv — 6/1/05 @ 6:56 am
id like to make a comment on the anal monkeys G5. i have a homebuilt AMD 64 monster named “G5 KILLER”. it has a ZN53-250 motherboard w/ 2 gigs of ram, a radeon 9800 pro, a $250 160 gig hd., and to top all of this off a dual layer 16x DVD drive. Beat that mac boy. G5’s SUCK.
Comment by Bob McCarthy — 6/1/05 @ 7:55 am
oh i forgot omention, it runs around 70-80 fps, and i know the mac cant do that with its “integrated graphics”!my graphics card is 256 megs of pure mac killling, oh and all this only cost me around $950. heheheh
Comment by Bob McCarthy — 6/1/05 @ 7:58 am
Your amd machine sucks fuckin monkey nuts….. oh wow you have 2gigs of ram , so do I , you have a radeon 9800 with 256 and you paid 950 for it….okay I have a radeon x800 with 256 and I paid 499.. I think you got fucked, but then again you’re used to that aren’t you.OOh no you have a 160 gig internal drive oh my god!!!! I have a 150 gig internal and the 80 gig my machine came with along with a 150 external hand me down from a pc friend of mine. Go fuck yourself with that small time shit. Imac g5’s, emacs, single 1.8ghz powermacs, dual 2.0 powermacs, and dual 2.3 all come with ati radeon 9600 graphics cards with 128 ddr included when you buy them. But you didn’t get that did you? No you bought your piece of shit and it had onboard graphics. Then you had to go out and replace the board to accomidate the new card and processor you wanted. Your hack job machine sucks balls, just like your daddy taught you to do. If that’s the best you can come up with , a fuckin single processor amd crap wagon then you are a sad little fucker. My dual 1.8 will eat you alive. Force quit always works you retarded british fuck. Man alive do you even work on fuckin macs or did you just play with one for a bit and now you’re an expert!!! Jesus the school system in your country is seriously sliding if it produces retards like you.Next time you wanna spit numbers at me fucknuts how about you do a little research into apple products before I make a bitch out of you again.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 6/1/05 @ 3:26 pm
Bobo wrote:
“From what I can understand in the windows world you only use control-alt-delete when everything has frozen up and you can’t quite an application. Correct me if I’m wrong.”
Well, yes and no. Typically you wouldn’t want to close your applications this way because it’s similar to Macs “Force Quit”. However, you can bring it up at any time if you wish. Under XP, CTRL-ALT-DELETE also allows you to see how each process is running and a real-time graph of processor/page system usage.
The PC does a hard shut down the same way as a Mac although it’s rare that it has to be done.
As for the shortcut keys…well, that’s not actually true. There are, in fact, a number of menu items in any given application without a COMMAND-SHORTCUT KEY combination. I could click on the FILE menu, for example, and then use my cursor keys to go down through the menu choices but there’s no direct way to open up that FILE menu panel without the mouse. On a PC, there is. You can access any menu and any menu item within that panel using the keyboard. The COMMAND-COMMA trick is neat but it doesn’t do what I need it to.
However, GV is not entirely correct (and he sounds like he needs to lay off the ‘roids). Although CTRL-ALT-DELETE typically kills errant processes, it’s hardly instant. Eh…ain’t nothing perfect.
Oh, and Bob, although I still stand behind PCs for a lot of reasons, the Mac I’m on has a non-integrated and relatively kick-ass video card.
Let’s keep it civil, huh?
Comment by P — 6/1/05 @ 3:48 pm
Hell yes… Thank you P. I have you saying at least one good thing about a mac.. That is a start. If people honestly want to know my reasons why I don’t like pc’s here it is. I hate the whole do it yourself atmopshere of a pc. I hate dell and their 300 dollar wonder machines that all of my friends get suckered into buying and then bitch how the machines won’t play doom 3. I hate the whole gaming fetish that permeates the pc world and detracts from legitimate uses and functions of a computer. I hate that you used to get tons of free software with a pc and now everything is trial only. Where is the productivity stuff? Where is the equivalent of the Ilife suite on the pc? And lastly I hate that as “consumers” you are forced into being a Windows slave. Yes there is lennix but the adverage pc consumer can’t run lennix. I know several people ( as do some of you) who upgraded their “broken” computers because they thought it had a hardware issue when the real problem was software i.e. windows. There are those who don’t have issues with windows and I say fine , go with what works with you. I ( being a newbie to computers and programming) had a helluva time getting anything to work on that goddamn OS and I will never go back. Mac has changed stuff for me. I can’t explain the feelng I get on a mac. I would equate it to someone finding religion, you either get it or you don’t. But what I will not take is ignorant people dissing macs – who by the way don’t use them on a daily basis. Those of you who do use both I must tell you that you will always have issues on a mac because you have not unlearned your pc way of dealing with things. Once you learn a mac you will see that in someways it is more intuitive than a pc. ( Now I can wait to Hear Gv’s answer to this one. Yes I misspelled your name on purpose you twit.) Oh an P I will keep a civil tongue so long as a civil one is directed at me.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 6/1/05 @ 9:07 pm
Gv you asshole…. That G5 is P’s computer not mine…. Fuck’s sake do you even read? I mean christ you are english ( the country that spawned the damn language) I figured you would at least be able to read it. This is my fucking computer specs if you want to know asswipe.
Dual 1.8GHz PowerPC G5
900MHz frontside bus/processor
512K L2 cache/processor
2 GB SDRAM
Expandable to 4GB SDRAM
80GB Serial ATA
150 GB Serial ATA
150 GB External Drive
8x SuperDrive
Three PCI Slots
RADEON X800 graphics card
256MB DDR video memory
56K internal modem
Airport Wireless Card
Mac Ally bluetooth module
Blue Tooth Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mouse
My setup cost me about 1,999 ( american, you do the conversion) plus the cost of a new hard drive , ram , airport car, and the graphics card. And in test’s my machine can out perform a dual 3.4 Xeon Hp workstation in Photo, and video editing. The only place a mac loses( by seconds again) is in 3d rendering…but I can take a few extra seconds for saving thousands ( Hp workstation is again 4500 american). And from what I’ve read on Alias’s website they don’t recommend maya for amd 64 bit processors yet because the systems haven’t been tested. So don’t toot your horn too loudly.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 6/1/05 @ 11:02 pm
haha Bobo… lets see…..
first of all… if YOU can be arsed to read back through the coments then you’l find that you started slating me… so I fuckin slated you back… “show the respect you are given” … (my moto).
so seem as well you were a bit more civil in the last comment I will do the same:
this section of the website is about why macs are shite. so obviously people are gonna be postin comments about why macs suck.
I do work on both Macs and PC’s on a daily basis and I find that its because of this “easy to use” bullshit that the macs are so bad… (and the software not being as good) … and about your specs… not exactly spectacular, so next time you choose to slate my system (better than yours) maybe take a look at your own??? anyway, I’ve had fun ripping the shit out of you… and you still havent proven to me that macs are better than PC’s so Im still justified in thinking that MAC’s should all be chucked onto a fucking fire.
ohhh and “P”, steriods my fucking ass, its called “exercise”, and playing the guitar for like 15years you tend to build a bit of muscle.
heres my main specs again:
Pentium 4,
4GB DDR RAM,
400GB Hard drive
Duel 256mb Graphics Card (better/more reliable than a single 512mb card)
thats the main specs, cant be arsed to list the rest, but I thought you were “fishin for summit”, seems you went very quiet after I mentioned my specs before.
and no, force quit doesnt always work, and yes, “P”, the task manager is always instant, unless you have a shit computer or summit.
anyway,
in summary:
MACS = Shit
PC’s = good
English language = shit (I hate it)
The Queen = dead (hopefully)
greasy hair = like the 50’s or summit?
Spotted Dick = dont even wanna know
Comment by GV — 6/2/05 @ 8:40 am
GV, when I mentioned ‘roids I meant rage, not muscle. Tone it down a bit man, it’s an early grave.
Bobo, well, having a hell of a time going to the Mac. There seems to be no normalization between applications. HOME on some apps skips to the top of the screen (keeping the cursor where it is), and beginning of the line in others. In other apps yet you have to use CMD-LEFT ARROW. The most perturbing thing is that behaviour’s incosistent in simplee things like the finder. If you click on an item in the left pane (HDD, favourites [I guess]) ad use the arrow keys, it only manipulates selection of the files. Using CMD-LEFT or RIGHT does nothing. CMD-UP presumably goes into parent folder but there appears to be no way to open a selected folder. ENTER, oddly, begins renaming the folder (who thought that this was the most common thing you want to do with a folder?!?) and SPACE brings you back to the top of the list. Hitting the HELP key is also inconsistent…in some applications you get a help window. In finder you get nothing. In the Font Book or System Preferences you get a question mark cursor which doesn’t do anything (clicking on an item simply gets rid of the cursor).
Clicking on the close button on any app window apparently doesn’t close the app, or if it does why does the dock still have an arrow beneath it showing it to be open? And the dock itself is a nuisance…windows regularly hide behind it and of course the dock obscures the portion I need to work with. Hiding the dock is an option but then waiting for it to pop up so I can access running apps is testing my patience.
I also notice the only way to size windows is the little drag corner in the lower right-hand corner of the window. Should my window extend beyond the right edge of the screen I have to drag it over, resize it, and drag it back.
I lhad to laugh at the designer here who had a wierd window pop up in Flash that extended over the space of 50 desktops (don’t ask, I don’t know how it happened). Watching the process of closing that window was very satisfying.
Honestly, for being the pioneers in GUIs, Apple have managed to really screw the pooch with their OS. It’s just a bunch of useless bells and whistles. Sure the genie effect is kinda cool but what purpose does it server other than to slow down the interface? Also, what if I don’t want to have my interface either blue or chrome?
Rather than turn me on to the Mac interface I’m being more and more frustrated with it. It’s one limit heaped upon another for really no good reason. It’s not a friendly user interface. Quite the opposite, it’s confounding, highly limiting, full of useless gadgets. Honestly, the Dashboard is the latest and greatest in Tiger? What a uselss hunk of junk! Two screen hops filled with pointless animation to open up a calculator. And the water effect is cool but *WHAT IS THE POINT*?!?
Sorry man, but for the kinda money you shell out for a Mac, you are being ripped off. Gawd I hate this machine…
Comment by P — 6/2/05 @ 12:56 pm
Like I said, you’re gonna have to learn to use a mac. Alot of the keyboard shortcuts on the pc will not work on a mac. The most common shortcuts in the mac environment are the ones I listed for you ( unless you’ve found some in the help menu I haven’t heard of – oh and mac help is apple ? ). OS 10 has a large drag and drop feature, so using the mouse is the primary function. Most things are accomplished via drag and drop. You’re just gonna have to play with it and unlearn what you have learned if you want to use a mac. It sounds retarded but look at it like driving. Just because you can drive an automatic doesn’t mean you’re gonna be a wizz on a standard. Right. Same thing in the computer environment. Programming in Unix is a different environment than dos or fortran. So you just got to learn to use this tool the way you would any other. That’s my advice. Yeah Gv you got a nice hook up with the ram and graphics card, but your processor still sucks and the hard drive don’t impress me. A pentium 4 fuckin processor are you kidding me!!!Get out of here with that 32bit crap…. Hmmm P..apple ? works for me in the finder.. Yes closing the window doesn’t close the app, alot of times . That’s for people like me that accidentally close a window and go “oh shit.” Do apple Q to close the app.
Gv I could give a good goddamn weither you convert to mac or not….. But I can’t in good conscience let trash talkin of macs go unpunished. ‘Till next round you string pluckin bitch.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 6/2/05 @ 5:05 pm
Oh geez, well there are enough of my fucking posts to last a lifetime in here. Okay lets recap.
Pc’s
Cheap, made in India software to go along with their cheap ass hardware.
No hardware support for the 60 sum odd parts in your custom crap wagon unless you do the leg work and read up for any recalls.
An upgrade cycle of 2 fucking years. Who the hell wants to replace they’re shit that often.
An operating system that is spotty at best and a goddamn nightmare at worst.
Finally a culture built around gamers and idiots who think that just because they can slap together some hardware and install an OS that they are fuckin experts.
Oh and pc’s look like balls.
Macs
Reliable OS. Great professional apps. Free productivity software. Great Technical support and hardware support. Engineering eyecandy. They just work better and faster than pc’s. Fact, so deal with it.
Oh and Gv stands for Ginger’s Vagina….Yup it was a bitch I was argueing with all along.
Any how unless someone esle posts in this damn room other than P and Gv it’s gonna get dull real quick. I can’t keep telling the truth of how much pc’s suck to the same people all the time…… It’s a little dull. Maybe it’s time to hang up my gloves and retire undefeated.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 6/3/05 @ 2:28 am
real inventive Bobo, Ginger’s Vagina…. how long did it take you to think of that… probably stayed up all night for that one.
(it stands for Green Vamp, fuck you)
(+ I would hate to meet a bitch that looked like zakk wylde… prob have to be a german to manage that much facial hair)
anyway….
Ok… First of all… “P”…. I dont have rage, I’ve been laughin my ass off while typin + readin all this shit, I find it funny as fuck that Bobo has just said “They just work better and faster than pc’s. Fact, so deal with it.” … even though he posted some links to tests between macs and PC’s on 3D software and the Macs where slower… then he admitted it… wierd that people forget what they’ve typed isnt it. anyway, sorry for jumpin at you bout the ‘roids coment, you ment summit else so fairenough.
Ok…Bobo.. maybe you should stop contradictin yourself???hmmmm… oh and .. “Reliable OS. Great professional apps. Free productivity software. Great Technical support and hardware support. Engineering eyecandy.”
you just keep beliving that bobo, just keep beliving it….doesnt take away from the fact that you are talking to a guy who uses both Macs and PC’s and the Macs come out shit in comparison… deal with it!.
“Oh and pc’s look like balls” – yeah personal taste mate, you may like the look of your piss head half eaten apple logo but I personally think that PC’s (especially my dell) look a hell of a lot cooler… plus macs are designed to please mother fuckin retards that follow weak ass fuckin trends… ohh its soo pretty like a fuckin fashion acessory!.
anyway, I dont have to prove myself to a mother fuckin cock sucker that lives in his little fantasy island where Macs actually work, like I said, I work on both, the Macs are unreliable and the software (especially 3D) is watered down piss compared to the PC versions, maybe because the PC’s can handle the bigger software perhaps.
ohh and my pentium 4… it pisses all over everything that Ive compared it to, especially for render time in 3D packages (which is what I need it for)
and yes the hard drive is impressive… you see when 3D packages run they save out a shit loada temps, and you have to work with very large files as textures and other stuff like that… so you need a big hard drive to handle everything, plus it improves render time… so the bigger the better.
“Maybe it’s time to hang up my gloves and retire undefeated.”…. ermmm whatever you belive bobo… but I think youl find you aint proved anything other than Macs are a load of bollocks…. fuck you ya deluded little shit
Comment by GV — 6/3/05 @ 6:14 am
Ok this is all a big joke i am sertified to woek on pcs and macs. when ever a mac has a problem its somyjing easy but on the other hand when its a pc it could be anythin i own a mac and a pc love both of them. o ya any one u owns windows me get rid of it the operating system is worst thatn windowas 95 si i suggest as being microsft certified that you should get somthing better
Comment by Technical suport — 6/3/05 @ 11:30 pm
I was reading over some more of your comments what are you guys a bunch of five yer olds yes i have been working with pc’s a lot longer then macs until i recently got my degree i love the makes and pcs but i can do so much more on a mac easyer to hack pc’s with to. Obvisley the perosn who wrote this is just trying to pisse make users of so if he dosent like makes or anyone else on here thats your lose and the same with mac users that dont use pc’s. One other thing i bought my mac 1 year ago and havent had one problem with it i bought me dell dimension at the same time and that week i had sevral problems with it.
Comment by Technical suport — 6/4/05 @ 11:03 am
KAMEHTbI PYJIRT !!!
Comment by hell.citizen — 6/5/05 @ 8:15 am
to “technical suport”:
I guess its just different peoples experiences as to whether PC’s or MAC’s are better, but PC’s have far more power and can handle larger (and better) programs… and when something goes wrong with a MAC then its usually critical… your just lucky you havent come across that yet… at least with PC’s its easy to find and fix a problem… and you have the option of working through DOS if everything else fails.
And as for being classed as “a bunch of five yer olds”….
learn the English language first, before trying to insult anyone.
Comment by GV — 6/6/05 @ 4:08 am
Ahh,
Glad to see the debate still raging.
Technical, I am (nor do I plan to be) Microsoft certified and I managed to install/upgrade/degrade XP numerous times. Why? Because I actually taught myself about computers and how they function instead of relying on “experts”. I studied computer science and electronics so maybe that gave me a step up, but I figure that gives me more room to be critical. Frankly, there is no reason why a reasonable person would buy a Mac. That idea of them being easy to use is simply nonsense. You plug in as many wires into a PC as you would a Mac (with the exception of the flimsy iMac series). The OS is just as confusing (if you want comparisons) as Windwos XP and confounding. There is *no* standardization among applications or even the system tools themselves (keys do one thing on one app, another thing on another). There is considerably less “under the hood” tinkering you can do with a Mac and, simply put, they are SLOW! Again, for the money you shell out for a Mac, you can have a twice-as-powerful PC with all the bells and whistles and full support plan for years.
I’ve been on this god-foresaken machine now for almost a month and with each passing day I depise it more and more. I feel limited in what I can do (I’d get used to it if there was one standard I could get used to!), it is slow, clunky, and it appears as if most of the effort went into making the pretty transition animations in the OS than making it robust or actually *useful*.
And Bobo, PCs are not made in India. They’re made mostly in Taiwan (I spent over 4 years there), the US, and Japan. India does not have the infrastructure to build such delicate operations as chip-fab plants.
Sorry to day but all y’all Mac users are still suckers.
With the way the Mac is going, you’re just going to buy a highly over-priced PC in the end:
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3510341
I hope Apple dies a miserable death and we’re finally rid of this pestilent plague of garbage they keep trying to push on us (yes, that includes all their products).
Comment by P — 6/6/05 @ 1:47 pm
Gawd,
Can anyone explain why I have to enter my credentials EACH AND EVERY TIME I WANT TO INSTALL SOMETHING?!? I have full access over the apps folder anyways and could delete anything there. I’m connected to network drives automatically but for some wonderful reason I’m forced to enter my password every time I install something. And what’s the point of the Dashboard?!? Open the dashboard to roll out a second menu where I use a horizontal slider to select the caluclator? Wand do I need that stupid water effect EACH AND EVERY TIME I open a dashboard item. Oh, and how useful are these items anyways whan I can’t actually use my applications while it’s open. Click->wait->click->wait->click … perform simple calculation…back to application to enter data (hopeing I remember it)…repeat process. Lame, really lame. I dunno about you but I wouldn’t shell out US$130 for this.
Comment by P — 6/6/05 @ 1:55 pm
P.S. That’s the Mac I’m talking about. Piece of trash!
Comment by P — 6/6/05 @ 1:55 pm
Apple announced today that they will be using Intel chips in their computers.
This is the first step towards making the Macintosh a real computer.
Even Apple realizes the mac sucks.
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 6/6/05 @ 2:30 pm
“Our goal is to provide our customers with the best personal computers in the world, and looking ahead Intel has the strongest processor roadmap by far,” said
Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO
Comment by Leshaun Fossett — 6/6/05 @ 2:33 pm
Here is website ther is know price diffrence for the same stuff mac = to pc. http://www.systemshootouts.org/
Comment by Technical suport — 6/6/05 @ 5:02 pm
hello to all who say mac sucks. Its true they do but so do pc’s. They are both unrelible crap. i succesfully built with the technolgy from mac and pc a better computer. i used a mac and i got windows on to the macmini and its the best computer ever the best of macs hardwear mics with the best of hardwear. O ya bye the why windows is very well strugilling againts mac becuas of the mac mini.
Comment by HACKER 1211 — 6/6/05 @ 5:07 pm
pc’s suck ass mac rock ya
Comment by funny shit — 6/7/05 @ 4:46 pm
Leshaun you’re gay…..
Comment by Duh — 6/8/05 @ 1:56 am
Love the site tech… looked at most the comparisons, and mac is the better deal in each shoot out. Great site.
Comment by Duh — 6/8/05 @ 2:01 am
http://www.systemshootouts.org/processors.html Check out the dual 1.8ghz pentium equivalent. Nuff said. And for those who want to ask no I’m not happy with Apples fucking decision but then again I’m not an engineer and the power pc chips do run hotter ( but still RISC is better than CISC ) but they could’ve had IBM do a little R&D and fix the fucking issue. FUCK! Oh and fuck you Leshaun!! You know for a supposed smart person you certainly are a dipshit.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 6/8/05 @ 2:30 am
That’s it! That’s the Apple way. Do something and think about it later. As Apple slowly trudges towards becoming like a PC (because they’ve finally had to admit that PCs *are* better), I can think of no better way to demonstrate how ultimately useless Apple machines are than to have Apple themselves wanting to switch over their own hardware. There’s really nothing left to say…Macs suck.
Comment by P — 6/8/05 @ 10:01 am
Bobo,
It would seem that according to the chart the majority or PCs actually have slower clock speeds than their equivalent Macs. The next level down requires a dual processor Mac to match the perfomance of a single processor PC.
There’s also an interesting and, in my opinion, ultimately true quote towards the bottom of the page:
“Instead of specifically trying to trash the G4, I now believe that Jim Louderback was trying to make a valid point–that you can twist any given benchmark test to your benefit if you try hard enough–by doing the same thing themselves.”
Truer words have never been spoken. All I can go on is how each system (Mac vs. PC) performs on every day tasks and I’ve had the opportunity to try both on a professional level over a period of a few weeks. While the Mac does have a lead in a few areas (Photoshop, to name but one), the overwhelming evidence points to the PC as simply perfoming better on the vast majority of tasks I’ve put to it. It may be helpful to put this into perspective…I work primarily with Flash MX 2004 Pro, Dreamweaver MX 2004, Photoshop CS, PHP, mySQL, and SEPY for editing XML and Actionscript. With the exception of Photoshop, again, all of the other apps run significantly faster on the PC. Okay, so that may be biased because maybe they’re optimized for the PC. Well, I also work in a networked server environment and the PC connects much faster than the Mac. Also, I can see all shares over a network (and re-connect automatically) on the PC whereas on the Mac I have to connect to one share at a time and re-connect manually every time I re-start.
While the PC may not look as pretty as the Mac, windows are a lot more responsive (dragging, re-sizing, etc.), and in-application elements such as scroll bars move faster (track closer to mouse movement). How can this be explained if this G5 iMac (2Ghz) is supposed to be blazingly faster than the PC? I also noticed that no one bothered to address the other issues I was encountering in my previous messages.
Comment by P — 6/8/05 @ 10:37 am
Oh yeah, and I can’t see images or go on the internet from my Mac. What garbage!
Comment by P — 6/8/05 @ 10:41 am
Though we disagree on the mac issue…I will agree that apple is doing this and thinking about it later. I mean for fucks sake man Intel???? I have no love for the intel processor and I disagree with you on the OSX vs. Xp issue. But that is strictly a personal preference with you and I’m tired of trying to hammer it out. I feel burned by apple.. I feel betrayed. Apple is in bed with the enemy. They’re pissed about IBM making a sweetheart deal with Sony and feel like they are being played as a second banana. In my opinion IBM’s powerpc processor is great and could use a little tweeking. Hell intels processors ran hot at one time in there lives and I believe Apple just needed to push IBM to do the R&D on it and fix the heat issue. But no they’d rather scrap it and go with the easy way out. What the fuck is going to happen when AMD is making faster processors than intel 5yrs down the line ,,,, are the gonna switch then. This is ass stupid. This is the easy way out for apple and they fuckin kow it. They want the latest and greatest pc hardware that comes down the fuckin pipeline and not have to wait for the manufacturers to port it over onto the mac platform. I’d rather wait, I can get shit cheaper by the time it comes to the mac. I guess apple dual processor 64 bit G5 chips lose a little speed because they have to sacrifice for the access to over 4 gigs of ram..Dunno on that one I will look it up. As for your issues P I see it as you are nit picking just a little bit. You can’t see the forest for the trees man. Did you expect OSX to be an Xp clone??? Anyhow I’m pissed off at this whole cop out. Maybe because of this more game titles and other shit will come to the mac to make you fucks happy but the reverse side of this is that now someone can buy a mac and FUCKIN PUT WINDOWS ON IT!!!!! AAAHHH!! Now instead of original hardware and design macs are being reduced to a pc with a nice case. Shit!! Instead of hardware vs. hardware it’s gonna be OSX vs. Xp and if mac can’t convert with their os this is the beginning of the end. I won’t buy an intel mac and I encourage everyone out there to shun them. If I want and upgrade I’ll get a dual 2.7 ghz powermac. It says something when a 2.0 powerpc is taken as powerful as a 3.6ghz pentuim 4. That’s why apple is pluggin 3.6’s into their new shit, so mac users won’t notice a difference. HOW STUPID. ITS LIKE MAC IS FUCKIN GOING BACKWARDS NOT FORWARDS….AAAHH!!! If this move kills apple then Steve Jobs is the fucking anti christ!!
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 6/8/05 @ 6:52 pm
I know this is shit they are swithching to intel stupid move bye apple
Comment by Technical suport — 6/8/05 @ 8:37 pm
It irritates me so much because the Power Pc cell chip has really yet to see it’s peek. Mac started with G3 chips and now they are on G5’s. I mean the xbox 360 is going with power pc chips and the ps3 is going with a cell processor as well. IBM is an innovator and they just arent’ being given their due as far as the ability to overcome the heat issue in the powerpc. This is just hubris on Steve’s part and idiotic.
Comment by Bobo the space monkey — 6/8/05 @ 8:59 pm
I can believe how many people are actually taking this seriously.
Doesn’t anyone know the meaning of the phrase “Fake News”?
Comment by Boobie Mchooters — 6/8/05 @ 9:58 pm
BTW, where are the llamas?
Comment by Boobie Mchooters — 6/8/05 @ 10:02 pm
Boobie Mchooters wher not taking the thing serious wher talking about other matters like why the hell apple is swithching to intel
Comment by Technical suport — 6/9/05 @ 10:14 pm
im tryping on a crappy mac and i stumbled upon this site when i typed in macsuck in google…
You cant compare mac processors and pc processors they are built entirely differently….and i hope to god the person talking about the 1.6ghz notebook kills himself. What kind of processor was on that compaq? Celeron? I think so…
Anywho the ppl saying macs are better for rendering graphics, your all idiots. The sofware like photoshop was DESIGNED FOR MACS. That doesnt mean it runs better, my pc ownz any crappy mac at everything period.
For the love of god it lags in photoshop, illistrator, and cant even play flash movies above 4fps…POS.
Oh and one more thing….wtf is with the one mouse button and mac tring to do everything different then pcs, they do everything backwards…who the hell has scroll buttons on the bottom of ie windows…god damnit the rightclick button was a gift from god and mac tosses it.
Comment by Bios — 6/10/05 @ 11:39 am
Yeah, and who thought that black and white graphics was okay? Get with it, Apple! The PC can now display millions of colours and you’re still displaying 4-bit greyscale. And honestly, what’s wwith the porthole look. Jeez!
Well, I think this topic has been exhausted. Been fun but it look slike no matter how we feeel about it or what we say on either side of the debate, Mr. Jobs is going to steer the good ship apple straight up onto a jagged reef because he can’t see past his own ego.
Been fun. See you all around!
Comment by P — 6/10/05 @ 4:12 pm
Macs have millions of coulers as well i have that on the mac mini im typing with. And Bios i have a two clike mouse and the left clike works as well about the same way the windows one dose
Comment by Technical suport — 6/10/05 @ 4:51 pm
does(*)
Comment by Technical suport — 6/10/05 @ 4:52 pm
I dont know what age you guys are in becuase all of the stuff that you guys say mac doesnt have they do. Dont get me rong though i love pc’s as well.
Comment by Technical suport — 6/10/05 @ 4:57 pm
I can believe how many people are actually taking this seriously.
Doesn’t anyone know the meaning of the phrase “Fake News”?
Comment by Boobie Mchooters — 6/10/05 @ 6:14 pm
Macs always crash when I throw them out a two story window.
I wouldn’t dare throw my PC out a window.
Comment by GENERAL Mantities — 6/10/05 @ 6:45 pm
You wouldnt dare to throw a pc out the window becuase it already crashed its self.
Comment by Technical suport — 6/11/05 @ 9:54 am
I can’t believe how many people are actually taking this seriously.
Doesn’t anyone know the meaning of the phrase “Fake News”?
Comment by Boobie Mchooters — 6/11/05 @ 7:51 pm
Ya how many times have you said that
Comment by hACKER 1211 — 6/13/05 @ 9:57 am
Macs Suck. Anyone who wants an anti-mac desktop backround can get it from http://www.zeeboid.com
Comment by Pete — 7/28/05 @ 8:46 pm
I just got out of the hospital after having a massive tumor removed from the brain. Now I finally see what everyone was talking about. I humbly apologize. I was completely wrong with aligning myself with macs. I have gotten rid of my mac and bought 2 DELL systems. I hope everyone can forgive me for the senseless rants I posted on here (sometimes adding numerous posts in a matter of minutes). Thank you.
Comment by bobo the space monkey — 7/30/05 @ 1:57 am
ok i dont know if any of this has been bought up because i couldnt be botherd to read all the messages….
all of these three reasons are wrong… im on a mac now for starters just like others have siad.. i see no reason for people to argue about macs and pcs, the reason pcs are more popular is because when they were made microsoft only copywrighted the softwere so other manufacters could make cheaper computers, macs were copywrighted for the software and machines meaning no-one else was allowed to make machines for the mac os’ …. i think macs are better, the system cant crash for a start.. all pc programs can be used on it if u use virtual pc to run it, that counts for all games! so dont bother about commenting on games. macs are better for things like makeing music, the graffics for mac is good it uses quarts unlike pcs for a start, and the system isnt locked up so its better for developers and easyer to make programs… oh and there are a hell of alot less viruses for a mac. anyways gdbye all i hope your not too childish to ignore all of this and just shout macs suck again.
Comment by tom — 7/31/05 @ 2:43 pm
ok i now realize that i didnt know that everyone was talking about apple computers when they said mac.. i thought that they meant mac daddy which is what my computer is… yeah macs suck… except for my mac daddy… which you suck.
Comment by tom — 8/1/05 @ 1:38 am
haha
Comment by mike — 8/1/05 @ 5:17 pm
PCs suck ass!!!!
There is a reason people “SWITCH”. They are tired of the crap that they have to put up with on a PC. Once you go Mac, you never go back. Why? Because Mac don’t do all of this shit that you say they do. They don’t crash, they don’t get hacked into, they don’t get VIRI!!!!!!!!!.
The whole piece about not connecting to the internet….. laugh *LOL*
The term iMac, take a long gaze at the “i” in the name. The “i” stands for “INTERNET”…. you stupid ass clown fuck. Macs have no problem connecting to the internet because they use the same fucking standards as the majority of the world uses.
Macs are the leading computers in graphics and design. Who the fuck uses MS Paint!?!?! You have to be a stupid ass old lady fucker to think MS Paint can compare with any of the programs that come STANDARD on a Mac.
Sure, Macs are pricey…. However, they are fully loaded. A PC doesn’t cost as much because they don’t come with a wireless card, bluetooth, dvd burner, dedicated graphic memory, and a shit load of programs. If you want that stuff on a PC, you have to up the price. Then it crashes on you. But don’t worry, you are not mad because PC parts, like you said, are inexpensive. Guess how many times any Mac user has had to buy new part for their machine…… none you stupid fuckbag.
1. Macs don’t crash.
2. Macs don’t get viri
3. People switch from PCs to Mac, not the other way around.
4. Do you want to work for you computer? (i.e. Virus software, spyware prevention, disk de-fragmentation, maintenance… PC stuff), or do you want your computer to work for you!!!!!!!!! (MACS)
5. Macs are not slower than PCs, unless you have a PC whose specs are significantly higher than the Mac. (which only occurs when you put a shit-load of money into it)
6. The Mac support is amazing.
7. Open up a PC… inside you will find a ton of different manufacturers and parts. More things can go wrong when you have different parts from different people. Open up a Mac, inside is all APPLE. This don’t go wrong when the same people to make the parts, make the OS.
8. Macs use new technology in their computer before anyone else even thinks about it. Bluetooth being one of them as well as FireWire800.
9. Macs are made to be simple. If you can’t figure out how to use a computer that is used by a 5 year old, to a 90 year old and everyone in between, then you are a dumbass. Think about it. EVERY AGE RANGE CAN USE A MAC AND THEY USE THEM WELL. WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME???? ASS.
10. Macs are built on quality and design. They are the sexiest computers in the world and they always will be.
By they way, leave it to a PC user to make jokes about kiddy porn. Fucker.
Comment by PC Users are FuckBags! — 8/1/05 @ 10:54 pm
Wow, great response. It’s a shame that anyone using a mac won’t even be able to read what you wrote since they can’t connect to the internets. I hate to tell you this, but, the “i” in iMac stands for incompatible, not internet stupid face. Also, mspaint is the graphic program of choice for all professionals. Ask Pixar!
In response to your little list:
1. If by crash you mean work then I agree.
2. Macs get viruses too (notice spelling).
3. Yeah, just ask Benjamin Disraeli about that.
4. I like removing spyware, it’s good for the soul.
5. Faster than PCs? Nothing is faster than a 1G P3 straight out of the box. Get your facts straight.
6. I will have to agree with you here, Steve Jobs himself came to my house and helped me install AOL.
7. It’s called capitalism, COMMUNIST!
8. I hate to tell you buddy, my PC had Bluetooth on it before most people knew that it was actually a tasty cereal.
9. Simple people, simple tools moran.
10. I suppose you should start a Mac Porn ring then?
There you have it, make sure you check your facts next time before you go spouting out insane lies my friend.
Cheers, Scott Baio
Comment by recipher — 8/2/05 @ 1:40 am
LMFAO!!!!!!
“Ask Pixar”
APPLE OWNS PIXAR YOU FUCK-TARD!
Comment by PC Users are FuckBags! — 8/2/05 @ 3:43 am
No they don’t! You don’t know anything you stupid moron!
Comment by recipher — 8/2/05 @ 3:02 pm
Here you go you stupid fuck-tard!
http://corporate.pixar.com/management.cfm?ShowBio=Jobs
My God you have horrible rebuttals and you have nothing to back up your arguments. Like I said, you’re a fuck-tard.
Comment by PC Users are FuckBags! — 8/3/05 @ 3:07 am
recipher: extra, extra…hot news!!!, YOU are a 12 years old gay redneck (no offence to to gays and rednecks), and this is not a fake news, like your crapola site, go get a life… even better… do a service to the human kind and commit suicide.
I have to admit, you earned this, good day
btw. don’t ever leave your Pc world please!!!
Comment by Apple is your Dad — 8/3/05 @ 3:16 am
@ PC Users, my God, what the hell? Did you make that website to try to backup your comments? That website is obviously fake!
@ Apple, thanks, I am a 12 year old gay redneck… that has the hots for you. I hope you’re a gay redneck too…
Comment by recipher — 8/3/05 @ 11:07 pm
I think this has to be the funniest website I’ve ever seen. Mac users are such fans that they’d kill people for saying they suck. I knew the site was fake, but it was fun playing along! LOL. Props to Recipher! LOL!
Comment by PC Users are FuckBags! — 8/4/05 @ 1:10 pm
fer all ya Mac users, try to hack another PC, i will enjoy watching you cry as you try!
bwahahaha
Comment by SILLY FAGGOT, MACS ARE FOR KIDS! — 8/4/05 @ 4:45 pm
wow, this site is funny!! i’ve got a mac, but i don’t care wut u pc ppl say, all computers r the same. they get the job done. macs just get it done faster and without crashes. i’ve had this mac for half a year, it hasn’t crashed…this site is great tho keep it up!!!
LOL
Comment by REAL MAN — 8/5/05 @ 1:42 am
Why are you people so angry about computers! Just use the computer that suits you. And stop putting each other down.
Did you know 22 Marines have been killed in Iraq in the last two days, and cussing about what computer is better.
Lord Help Us All
Comment by Someone — 8/5/05 @ 10:06 am
I have a big mac.
Comment by groinsniffer — 8/9/05 @ 1:26 am
Obviously Mac users don’t understand sarcasm and lack a sense of humor
…
Comment by thechronic — 8/13/05 @ 3:53 pm
I am just curious to see if there is a way that the site owners can tell which keywords broght people to this site. I feel safe in assuming that most people (especially the die hard mac users) found this site while searching something like: “macs suck” or what not…. If they are so darn good, then why would you search for the answers as to why they suck so much?
Comment by Fat Kid At McDonalds — 9/12/05 @ 12:05 pm
Ok, I have found a documentary that will finally put this to rest. Visit this site: http://perseus.franklins.net/whymacssuck.wmv
Comment by Fat Kid At McDonalds — 9/12/05 @ 12:30 pm
None of those reasons were real. Macs are cool. You know why? Macs are cool. Because I’m online right now looking at llama buttsecks picshures! Macs are cool. So stuff that up your ass! Macs are cool.
Comment by Zeke — 9/18/05 @ 9:39 am
I have a old powermac g3 all in one that i have not turned on in years. I fired it up and it asked for a password. No such luck, I cannot remember what the password was that I used before how can i get logged in or how can I change or route around the password for logging in to access my old hard driver
Comment by cory morriss — 9/19/05 @ 3:28 am
Being a die hard mac user myself (I mean, come on, didn’t my username here give that away?), I would like to take this opportunity to assist you, cory.
Step One: Make sure that it is in fact your Mac that you are trying to log into. Since all Macs look the same, it is easy to become confused as to whether or not it is in fact your Mac and not someone else’s.
Once you have checked with the other one or two people in your state that own Macs and determined that it is in fact yours, you must do the following:
Make sure that the antenna is pointing Due North. Macs will not understand BASIC (which is the code in which all Mac passwords are identified) unless the antenna is pointed in that direction.
Close all the windows, shades, drapes, and/or curtains in your house. This step is important because sometimes people look silly when they are growing impatient waiting for their Mac to actually boot up.
Turn the Mac on, wait exactly 10 seconds, then turn it off again. Repeat this 2 more times. This resets the password.
Now, leave the Mac on for 24 hours. Then come back and set a new password that your Mac will like. Remember, if the Mac does not like the new password, you will have to repeat this process.
I hope this helps! Mac on! Macs are cool.
Comment by Fat Kid At McDonalds — 9/21/05 @ 9:11 pm
OOO LOL I R USING TEH POWAR MAC GEE FIVE— ITZ REELY FAST
I completely agree that Macs suck. I don’t quite remember the error messages saying, “Macs are cool.” but I can imagine Apple doing something like that.
And yeah, Apple wouldn’t be here if Bill Gates didn’t give money to Steve Jobs, back in the 90’s.
I’m very concerned about the compatibility of the Macs. Programs that I use a lot wouldn’t work on a Mac.
What I’m saying is that I’d definately prefer a Windows PC over a Mac.
Comment by bob — 9/29/05 @ 9:27 pm
Macs are completely compatible with all the programs that PCs have. Yes you have to buy the program to run on the Mac, but God forbid you put a little extra money in to have a program that is stable and wont lose all of your information. Macs can do EVERYTHING pcs can. PCs don’t suck at all. If PCs sucked, there wouldn’t be so many out there. People like Macs because they are more user friendly than PCs. There are a lot of computer illiterate people out there and PCs “scare” them. PCs are great for the hardcore computer user. Those who understand and can absorb a lot about the system and it’s insides. Macs are great for the people who just want a computer that they don’t have to worry about. That’s all. They are both great, but just not for everybody the same.
If you have a PC and you are able to do everything that you want on it and you have no problems, then great. If you are finding it a hassle running virus protection programs (if you do at all) or worry about your PC being safe from hackers, then switch to a Mac. Otherwise, the PC is fine for you and the Mac is fine for me.
I for one was a hardcore PC user all of my life and I switched to a Mac 3 years ago. I love it. Everything just works and I don’t have to drive to Frys every time I want to install a new mouse or something (not that extreme, but you get the point).
PC: If you are happy, live long and prosper.
PC: If you are unhappy, switch to a Mac, then live strong and prosper.
Comment by Mike — 9/30/05 @ 5:19 pm
“Macs can do EVERYTHING pcs can.”
Oh REALLY? There’s a long list of programs that Macs can’t run that PC’s can.
I dislike the Macs’ simplicity.
Comment by bob — 10/5/05 @ 8:56 pm
http://guide.apple.com/
ass
Comment by Mike — 10/21/05 @ 9:40 pm
ITUNES MUSIC STORE, LOCATED WHERE YOU MIGHT ASK. OH, ON MY MAC, ACCESSING THE INTERNET!!!… IF YOUR GOING TO BE A MAC HATER , THEN KNOW YOUR ENEMY. OH YEAH AND AS A “GRAPHIC” DESIGNER, I KNOW THE WOURLD OF MACS ARE COMPRISED OF GRAPHIC & VIDEO PROFESSIONALS. SO IF YOU SEEN A MOVIE & READ ANY MAGAZINES, ADS, ETC, YOU SUPPORT MACS!
THANK YOU I REST MY CASE!
Comment by Chris — 10/27/05 @ 10:18 pm
come on you guys, i’m pretty sure he was joking and you have to admit its funny. i can’t believe people are getting so mad about something so ridiculous.
Comment by wow — 11/6/05 @ 9:49 pm
Anything PC can do, Mac can do better
Mac has an alternative Mac based progam for any program on a PC. Plus all mac users do is inseret the cd and press finish before its fully installed.
Oh , all u PC users , careful now.. , i feel that you are all on the verge of performing- an illegal system operation -and sorry , but youll have to rebot your oversized tower
have a nice day
Comment by Trent — 11/10/05 @ 11:43 am
Trent, if by ‘do better’ you mean ‘fail miserably at,’ I agree wholeheartedly.
Comment by recipher — 11/11/05 @ 12:53 am
I miss Scott Baio. Macs are cool!
Comment by Fat Kid At McDonalds — 11/22/05 @ 12:01 am
I HATE MACS!!!!!! I disagree with the three main reasons why macs are so terrible on this page, but macs are still useless! I think that macs can actualy go online with safari, but many features just won’t work! For example, on my web site many of the JavaScript wouldn’t work on Safari! The one thing that I totaly agree with is that MACS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE! Most games and programs don’t work on them. One oother thing, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN ANYONE WORK WITH A ONE BUTTON MOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I certanly can’t. Using the control-click feature isn’t as good. You need right click for games, and other things! By the way, for people who are interested, my web site is http://www.geocities.com/alex_rosenberg35/
Comment by Alex R — 11/22/05 @ 9:54 pm
MACS ARE NOT COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Alex R — 11/22/05 @ 9:55 pm
Trent my PC can sing 14 songs by queen using the internal PC-speaker. And can cook a full traditional Cambodian meal in just 9.43 minutes.
Let’s see your Mac do THAT!
Comment by KaptainKorea — 11/28/05 @ 9:59 pm
This is clearly a base attempt on your part to get more readers of your blog. Clearly you have noticed that people take things seriously like this. These comments are hilarious. I hope everyone was kidding and did not seriously think this was serious.
Comment by Aaron Morse — 12/2/05 @ 9:33 am
You people are imbeciles. Can’t you get it that this is satire?
DERRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Comment by jason — 12/3/05 @ 11:58 pm
I got a Mac lately and it didn’t even have Windows XP.
Absolute waste of money.
Comment by Pranab Salian — 12/6/05 @ 6:09 am
HAHAHAHAHAHA !!! What a funny, funny, funny post !!!
It says “Fake News. Distorted Satire.” right on the top of the page.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!
Great reading. Thank you all for the entertainment.
HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!
By the way, this is the REAL Bobo:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4959657771329583833&q=cat
Cheers !
Comment by JoJo — 12/16/05 @ 1:08 am
JoJo, that was funny as fuck!
Comment by recipher — 12/16/05 @ 1:46 am
Ha ha ha ha, the stupid Mac people are defending themselves ha ha ha macs are cool ha ha hee hee hooooooooo….. duh.
Comment by yermama — 12/16/05 @ 4:02 am
Recent studies show Macs appeal to victims of QAD (Quick to Anger Disorder) and DGJ (Don’t Get Jokes) Syndrome. Both are quite serious and well documented in the newest manual of mental illnesses that psychiatrists vote for each year. More and more Mac users are suffering from CTFS* Affliction.
(*Can’t type for Shit)
Comment by RK Tuthus — 12/16/05 @ 11:40 am
I’ll clear up some confusion considering that most people don’t know what they’re talking about. First off, whoever made this article is dumb and as you can see all of his reasons of why Macs suck are fake. By the way, it’s Mac not MAC; I believe MAC stands for Machine Address Code, although I could be wrong.
If you’re into gaming and want the best of the best compatibility, then a Mac is simply not for you. You’d be better off with a PC running Windows. Before I say anything else, I will admit I’m a Mac user.
The whole “Mac VS PC” debate is generally dumb. I run osx on PowerPC, but I like PCs. I just don’t like Windows, the operating system. Most intelligent Mac users know osx does indeed run faster on intel chips (generally.) Personally, I can’t wait till they release the new PCs running osx86
.
Any intelligent Windows or osx user will realize that osx definitely (generally) out-performs Windows, especially on a PC. Also, any reasonable person can say Windows is not as secure as osx, nor has a nice interface. When it comes down to interface, well-built Win32 applications look worse than well-built Cocoa applications, but as a rumor I hear that Apple will be porting the Cocoa Framework to Windows. Osx’s native aqua interface is also better than Windows native interface (whatever that is right now). Hmm.. Windows Vista (aka Longhorn; the new Windows OS) is trying to make a better native interface called aero and an API interface called WinFX, but Windows Vista is trying to look more “osx alike.” Windows Vista developer’s first intentions were to make their OS secure like osx in the old Longhorn days, but they were unsuccessful. As far as internet and networking goes, I really don’t know what OS is better for that considering that I couldn’t care less.
For all the people that have said Apple wasn’t smart enough to use a single click mouse and it’s easier to do blah on Windows than osx are just plain stupid. All those people blame it on the Mac because they have no idea what they are doing or simply just not used to it. I could argue why PCs have the control key all the way in the corner while as Macs don’t have their command key in the corner making it hard to use. I could also argue about why Windows copied so many of osx’s features, but I won’t argue with that stuff considering it’s just dumb to and proves nothing of importance.
Ah.. Can’t wait till I’ll be able to dual-boot with Windows and osx on a PC, I’d use Windows for gaming and osx for my general stuff
. As far as the “Mac vs PC” debate goes, PowerPC processors “could” run thousands of times faster than any type of PC processor, but it’s simply not like that because of how osx is written. Also, PowerPC architecture *is* better, but in most cases any type of PC processor would (generally) run faster.
Hope this clears up some confusion. Correct me if I’m wrong with any of this information, although I doubt it.. And if anyone was wondering if I really cared that much about people thinking Macs or PCs suck, I really don’t.
Comment by Anon — 12/16/05 @ 10:15 pm
Okay, first off, those three reasons are all complete BS, but, I agree, the mac isn’t the best choice for computer. Though I admit they have been getting better over the years, the mac still is utter bullshit.
1. They crash all the time
2. Not compatible with anything!
3. Programs suck
4. slow as hell
5. NO UPGRADES!!!
6. Overpriced
7. Too simplistic
8. Simplicity interferes with tech work on the computer
9. one button on mouse
10. practically no good games
11. cause fires easily
12. Did I mention slow as hell?
13. Huge for no good reason
Face it guys, PC’s can do anything a mac can better at a much lower affordable price.
Comment by MAc Hater — 12/21/05 @ 3:48 am
It’s just a computer, people!!! Calm down, lol. I know how both are, because I’ve used both hundreds of times, and I like WinXP much better. I don’t like Macs but I don’t hate them. Someone above wrote that you should just use the computer that suits you, which is exactly correct. Just today I got 3 essay-long emails from my friend trying to prove to me why Mac users are smarter and how Macs are better. Just use whatever you like and stop trying to convert eachother because it always leads to trouble!! Just look at all the swearing in the posts above!!
Comment by George Jetson — 12/29/05 @ 4:55 pm
stop trying to convert eachother because it always leads to trouble!!
I think the same should apply for religious enthusiasts! Are Macs and PCs a religion?
Comment by recipher — 12/30/05 @ 5:42 am
Macs are for the clueless. If you had a clue, you’d ditch your Mac with its wimpified version of *BSD, get yourself an x86 box and run up FreeBSD. Macs are perfect for fashion designer and scriptwriter wannabes.
If it is more important for your computer to match your decor, than to actually do anything useful, then by all means buy a Mac, you’ll probably turn it on once or twice then let it gather dust along with last years clothes…
Comment by Tom — 12/31/05 @ 6:36 pm
I look at the amount of people that can not spell for 1. that is a good indication that they have enough knowledge to point and click:)
Any OS has bugs. Microsoft(ugh) is the leader due to the fact that it was made for the mindless masses. (see above point and click)
If you really want to bitch, then bitch about something that can count. DELAY, BUSH, THE POINTLESS WAR. the fact that bush can’t find easter eggs on his own lawn let alone OBL. All i wanted was an answer to the fact that my battery will not charge in my presario 1500. And out of desperation I typed in the words fuck shit piss cunt motherfucker asshole and microsoft.
I got here. If you want to bitch, the polls and also an unknown clause in the constitution of THESE UNITED STATES says that we,THE people can invoke the right of impeachment on ANY member of an elected official providing substance for such be given by signature.
So quite pissing and moaning and do something, and point me to a solution to MY FUCKING PROBLEM!!
Comment by jonathan — 1/7/06 @ 3:29 am
I used a mac G5 ($4000+) and it sucked
I used a PC I made from 5 year old parts and I could do more things then on the mac, it was faster to boot, run programs, and this was without a video card, now I have a AMD 64 system
Comment by S7A88Y — 1/12/06 @ 4:44 pm
u liars!!! o mi gosh u guys ar so wrong…PC suckss!! alien techno is way bette. macs are great for working. i cant beleive u guys…
Comment by funny — 1/15/06 @ 8:56 pm
Firstly, Apple co. were the founders of a wide varity of different softwares and hardwards. Let me list a few:
Hardware created by Apple co.:
-USB
-USB 2.0
-Firewire400
-Firewire800
-”all-in-one” machines (i.e. display & computer components in one package… ex. the iMac)
-Colour Screens
-Microprocessors to name a few.
Software:
-Quicktime compression (i.e. mp3, .mov, .mpg etc.)
-Photo editing (i.e. Photoshop (YES! I know Adobe made the software, but it was with partnership with Apple co. and it was only for Macintosh in the begining)
-On-the-fly Defragmenation
- and many more.
I could go on. I am not putting down PCs at all. I am not a “fan” or PCs or the Windows OS, but lets face the facts; Apple clearly developed the software and hardware the makes computers usable at home. The Macintosh OS is clearly more user-friendly and more reliable. When do you ever see people making spoofs on OS X alerts? I can only find Windows alert spoofs. And there you have it, Macs are clearly the pioneer and the better choice.
Except for games.
Comment by pc users are dumb — 1/19/06 @ 10:02 pm
Well, I haven’t posted here for a while but am glad to report that I’ve finally been removed from the presence of those god-awful machines. Now that I’ve had an extensive and fair exposure to Macs, I maintain more than ever that they do indeed suck very badly (see posts starting around May 13 of last year).
I was forced to work with an exclusive, cutting-edge Mac G5. Regardless of what Apple is supposed to have invented (and some of those items listed in this post are dead wrong–even the OS is LINUX, mouse/GUI is Xerox PARC, etc. etc.), they simply don’t compare. The old stalwarts Photoshop and Premiere..plain and simple..are slower than on a comparable, and cheaper PC. Now can any of you tell me why Mac is switching to Intel chips? And if you say it’s because Macs were slower (ad you must), then why would a typical Mac cost twice as much as a PC? You were swindled, my friends!
Now I work in a PC-only environment (one Mac for testing) and it is like a dream. The OS actually responds instead of playing stupid squishy window animations. All applications (and I have performed extensive testing on Word, Photoshop, Premiere, Flash, and a few others) simply blow Mac performance out of the water.
Here’s a quick excerpt from the Netscape documentation, just as an example:
Hardware requirements:
*Mac OS
-Mac OS X 10.1.x; Mac OS X 10.2 and later
-PowerPC 400 MHz or faster processor, G3,
or G4
-256 MB RAM
-60 MB of free hard disk space
*Windows
-Windows 98 or 98SE, Windows Me, Windows NT
4.0, Windows 2000, or Windows XP
-Pentium 233 MHz (or faster) processor
-64 MB RAM
-26 MB of free hard disk space
A Mac, needing to be more than twice as powerful just to run the same app? Even good old Photoshop needs just a bit more power (and a hefty OS upgrade) on a Mac: http://store.adobe.com/products/photoshop/systemreqs.html
And in answer to all those who say PCs have more viruses, etc. well, the simple answer is, why bother with a Mac? I mean, how many people are you really going to affect?
As always, pitty the poor deluded Mac user. How many more times will old Jobs do a number on you before you realize what a slave you really are (think you’re being different? Try to get a Mac in another color!)
Comment by P — 1/24/06 @ 12:24 pm
Oh yeah…and reliability…wel, I didn’t get to test Macs vs. PC too much except in the old office I was at. We had two PCs (both always on). One was a server and one was a desktop standby. Neither failed.
Ever. (not to say it doesn’t happen…just doing a comparison)
The Powerbook of one of our team got a DVD stuck in it. To this day he can’t get it out without cracking the case. No pinhole eject button. Super idea, Apple.
Out of three iMacs, two failed. One of them started smoking (no fire, just black, acrid smoke). Needless to say that didn’t go over well. It was a total write-off. My iMac’s screen did a flicker and never came back on. Of course, because of the brilliant idea of having it as one unit (and no, Apple didn’t come up with that either), there was no way to repair them. The burned out one was actually two months old…and trash.
The two Apple external monitors attached to two powerbooks held up pretty well, except that one faded in about six month’s time. This happened to be the senior designer’s computer and needless to say he wasn’t pleased. He was a staunch supporter of Apple until all the equipment started failing…even he had to admit that Mac hardware isn’t excactly long-lasting. Also, the owner of the company bought him a cradle for his iPod…and it didn’t fit! Yup, it was designed for his model and it was an overpriced Apple original, and the guy couldn’t quite get his little iPod into the stand…just a millimeter too thick! I couldn’t stop laughing that day.
It’s nice to read some sanity in this list though. I also think that ‘hate’ is a strong word because I believe if you make your bed you lie in it. Unfortunately, I’ve now had about a year’s worth of time to store up real-world, professional, side-by-side comparisons of “Powerful” macs and middle of the road, plain old PCs. I’ve done hardware comparisons, price comparisons, support comparisons (lots of that with a Mac), OS, applications, networking, extendability/customization, warranty, upgrades, software availability, stability (I can list off 10 easy wasy to crash your Mac without bnlinking), and even culture (PC people vs. Mac people). While the Mac (and all Apple products for that matter), is trendy, you must understand that you are paying for the Apple name and that alone. There is not a single reason, not technical, economical, or otherwise, outside of being trendy, that you could possibly have to buy a Mac. you probably saw Carrie on Sex and the City writing her trendy column in her trendy apartment smoking her trendy cigarretes, like the image, and wanted to appropriate it for yourself. Not exactly original; and how many flavours do Macs…in fact, even their users come in?
Do you have a little goatee, unkempt hair, drink extra-large Starbucks coffee (three different languages to order a cup of joe, yeah right!), wear tattered old skateboard clothing (black shirt with trendy peeling logo) and lounge into work from your post-college apartment at ten in the morning complaining about the bullshit state of the world, put on your oversized headphones (attached to your little white iPod, or black if your really ‘ardcore), listening to some grungy indie band your friend is in (the one with the bleached-end dreadlocks and piercings throughout his face), sit in front of your iMac G5 and pull up Photoshop CS2 while making a quick quip about how PCs suck ass, getting ready for a hard day’s work in your trendy (yet sparce because it’s a really agile…i.e. small, company) workspace, filled with impractical objects and white desks that will soon be dirty from all the disused coffee cups (but the owners are practical that way, aren’t they), connecting to the “outside” world which, as everyone ultimately knows, runs on PCs?
If that’s you, you’re prime fodder for Steve and his minions. Before you part with your hard-earned dough, crack a bok (you do know how to read, don’t you?), visit some stores and *try* the hardware before throwing down 5k. You remember that philosphy major you took? Now you can look your parents in the face and say,
“Mom, dad, I don’t need to borrow money this month! I used that LOGIC class I was taught at school and discovered that I can have a really good computer without needing so much money! In fact, while I’m at it, doesn’t a $2.50 cup of Starbucks coffee seem excessively priced?”
Okay, I’m digressing but I think I’ve made my point. I challenge any Mac user that still thinks they made a wise purchase and do the following:
1. Find an online retailer that sells PCs
2. Do the same for Macs
3. Search both until you get roughly the same specs. RAM, monitor, HDD, everything (yes, Mac components are actually *gasp* generic hardware JUST LIKE A PC!).
4. Calculate the price difference
That’s the cash component
1. Search for software…anything your little heart desires. Include shareware/freeware/commercial. After all, you want a computer to be productive, no? Okay, well then how about games? Do the same.
That’s the versatility component
1. Search for PC cases. You’re artsy, you must want to spice up that computer. Search for … oh, sorry, there are no Mac cases. Only what Apple gives you. Well maybe for the iMac…oh, no sorry. Powerbook? Damn, sorry, waste of your time. I guess your computer won’t be as original as you are. Repeat with iPod and remainder of Apple product line.
That’s the originality component.
1. For stability I was going to suggest jarring the Mac a little but I’m not sure that’s wise. Remember the smoke I described above? Well, to see how effecient the hardware design is, just stick a CD or DVD into an iMac/powerBook. Be careful you don’t burn yourself when pulling it out. As for the OS, well, I suppose the Mac was pretty stable when it wasn’t physycally exploding. Mind you, I can get Linux for free…not sure why I would shell out US$130 for the same thing with an Apple logo on it.
1. Look at the feature list of Windows XP. Look at the feature list of Mac OS X. You’d think that with such a vast variety of software/hardware configurations, Microsoft (who I’m not plugging, BTW) would want to limit their OS. Yet, the latest and greatest addition to OS X was the dashboard…which locks up your desktop so you can access a dazzling array of useful utilities like calculator (you woulnd’t want to see your calculations and use other apps at the same time!) , weather (apparently only the US), iTunes (again, why keep other apps available when you can lock them up to turn down the volume?!?), and…wait for it….unit converter (how much do I weigh in, say…stone?) …. OOOOOOH! Really? And for only the same price as the full version? Don’t forget though that these blazing apps need the best Mac hardware to date. Of course.
I’m just going to ramble now. As you can tell, there’s a *LOT* that’s wrong with Mac. I’ll just have to stop myself here.
Comment by P — 1/24/06 @ 1:19 pm
Oh, what the heck…one more. So here’s Windows XP Pro for $80:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/features.mspx
And here’s OS X for $130:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/
So if you compare that side by side, Windows wins simply by numbers. But is that real quality? Are you really getting *more* for you money? Well, the fact that Apple pads it’s “feature” list with items like:
Installer
TextEdit
System Preferences
Internet Connect
Printer Setup Utility
Setup Assistant
USB and FireWire peripheral support
UNIX based
PDF
Calculator 4
Directory Access
Disk Utility
Audio MIDI Setup
OpenGL
…(and that’ about a quarter of the list), well that just indicates how wanting the OS really is.
And again, what kind of hardware does one need?
PC
PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended
128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)
1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*
Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor
CD-ROM or DVD drive
Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
This’ll run you a good $300 if you somehow manage to buy it brand new.
Mac
Macintosh computer with a PowerPC G3, G4 or G5 processor
Built-in FireWire
DVD drive for installation
256MB of RAM
3GB of available hard disk space (4GB if you install the developer tools)
Double the specs (at least) at a price of $500. Probably not, but I’m being generous.
Comment by P — 1/24/06 @ 1:40 pm
“pc users…”
As to your points:
Firstly, Apple co. were the founders of a wide varity of different softwares and hardwards. Let me list a few:
-USB
-USB 2.0 – That’s just plain wrong:
“Officially introduced by a consortium of seven computer and telecommunications industry leaders in 1995″ — http://www.everythingusb.com/timeline.html
-Firewire400
-Firewire800 – Yes, Apple did invent Firewire. It’s one of the few Apple inventions that are actually pretty decent. Too bad its adoption is so poor; compared to USB it simply doesn’t hold a candle in terms of hardware support. Still, I have to give you that one.
-”all-in-one” machines (i.e. display & computer components in one package… ex. the iMac) – Well, maybe for the size of a PC. But calculators had been around for quite a while…I don’t see it as such a leap. Besides, if you read some of my previous posts, this “invention” is nothing to boast about.
-Colour Screens – Wrong. Amiga and XEROX did the first colour screens. IBM was selling CGA adapters and screens when Apple was still punting its monochrome Mac portholes. I’m afraid that’s simply not correct.
-Microprocessors to name a few. – What sort of asinine statement is that? Apple used Motorolla in the beginning, then IBM, and now intel. They simply put the chips in their boxes. In fact, that goes for all their hardware (memory/disk/etc…all come from outside companies and can be use in PCs too!) – There’s not a single Apple microprocessor in existence. Period.
-Quicktime compression (i.e. mp3, .mov, .mpg etc.) – True for quicktime., which is a wrapper shell (not compression). MP3 was developed by Fraunhofer (http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/amm/) and MPG/MPEG was a format developed by Motion Picture Experts Group (http://www.mpeg.org/). Apple used outside compression technologies and combined them into a single file called MOV. Apple, as with their hardware, makes the packaging, slaps their logo on it, and sells it for double the price of comparable products.
-Photo editing (i.e. Photoshop (YES! I know Adobe made the software, but it was with partnership with Apple co. and it was only for Macintosh in the begining) – Incorrect. Amiga was the first to do photo editing and digital audio. And while Mac was considered a standard in photo editing, that doesn’t in any way prove that it’s better, just that it was adopted early on by easily fooled neophytes.
-On-the-fly Defragmenation – Absolutely false. That was pinoeered by UNIX. And it’s in a Mac now because…IT RUNS UNIX! Another example of Apple not actually “producing” anything. Good marketting machine, I guess.
Comment by P — 1/24/06 @ 2:05 pm
LOL, what a funny piece of BS
Hey guess what: cross-reference this: you are DUMB
A) I am reading this on a Mac
B) I am replying on a Mac
C) all the info is just stupid
D) You must love getting mail
Comment by Fox Mulder — 2/6/06 @ 2:43 pm
look at the year the original post was written. now, look at the date mine is posted at… Man…for a year this has been going on? I can do everything that is stated above just as any other computer can. Right now i am on a mac, but what does it matter at all? I can go on a PC and do things too. What’s wrong with that? I own macs, i use PC’s, and i dont complain about it when i use them, because ill figure out what im doing anyways. Unlike getting frustrated because of something im not used to, on PC or Macs side, i simply learn. And nothing at all on either operating system is not really that difficult. I wont sit here and say why something is better or not, because that’s my own opinion about it…in fact, replying to this is just wasting my own time because it goes against what i just said. But oh well, i’ll get over it. I use what im comfortable with, and who really cares…
Comment by Ky_Man — 2/7/06 @ 11:59 pm
Macs are for people that dont know how to use a PC, and pcs are not very hard to use and you can do anything.
So pretty much, macs are for pussies.
Comment by Bill Smith — 2/8/06 @ 11:58 pm
Macs are SO incompatible! Why would anyone use a mac?
Comment by Alex — 2/12/06 @ 2:15 pm
Ky_Man,
You’re completely correct. Macs are for all intents and purposes compatible with PCs in terms of functionality; especially now that Apple switched to Intel chips (another reason why Mac users got screwed). My contention was, and continues to be, that dollar for dollar, feature for feature, Macs are a complete rip off. The reply posted by Fox Mulder is typical of the type of defence that Mac users have mounted their machines, especially when faced with such a mountain of evidence.
Check this out…Mac is putting out a “new” intel-based laptop running at under 2Ghz for over US$2000. I’d be hard-pressed to buy *any* PC at that price let alone something that slow. Go spend your money, fools!
I’m not sure I *completely* agree with Bill Smith’s point but let me just say that after working for over a year in a Mac-only development shop — i.e. programming — the people I worked with proved to be exceedingly ignorant in the workings of their machines. They sure threw around the buzzwords though!
As for Alex’s point, that’s mostly true, but only because of Apple’s continued wisdom in using ass-backwards technology in ass-backwards ways…which of course forces them to turn the right way around eventually and end up with Intel chips!
What I’m looking forward to at this point is seeing the pressure put on Apple to actually make its machines perform now that they are using the same hardware as Windows machines. After a few dismal results (perhaps some more lies put out by Apple about its machine performance) even the most staunch supporters will start to furrow their brows in some sort of vain attempt to understand why their ‘puters aren’t working as fast as those guys over there (Windows/Linux/anything else) and Apple will get trashed in the markets. No matter what anybody says in this forum, on the web, or anywhere else for that matter, the pure and simple facts are that…Macs suck, Apple sucks, and Steve Jobs looks (and acts) like a horse’s arse.
Comment by P — 2/14/06 @ 2:21 pm
…and I’ve yet to see a single miserable post by any Mac user with any sort of evidence (web site link or anything other than their own wild imaginary rantings) showing why Macs are superior to PCs. I don’t expect to either because you need opposable thumbs in order to effectively operate the imple mechanical features of the home computer. Also, Macs suck.
Comment by P — 2/14/06 @ 2:25 pm
…did I mention Steve Jobs is a megalomaniac? Here’s a photo of him likening the size of his member to his company’s newest product:
http://www.mercola.com/images/newsletter/2005/07/05/steve_jobs.jpg
Note the devil-like eyebrows, lack of prefrontal lobe, diminutive crowning apex, and general deformity of the head which typifies the general Apple product user.
Comment by P — 2/14/06 @ 2:31 pm
…and here he is prognosticating the size of his member in the coming few years:
http://www.jmusheneaux.com/WINDOWS/JOBS/2003%20Steve-Jobs003.jpg
His general demeanour and lackluster appearance are typical of his unwashed heathenistic masses (i.e. Apple product users).
Comment by P — 2/14/06 @ 2:37 pm
Haha, P wins teh thread!
Comment by recipher — 2/14/06 @ 6:41 pm
Yes! And now I can go have my celebratory glass of sparkling ale and bask in the warm glow of a *true* computer’s dependable monitor, my Intel-based PC. Thanks recipher. Down with Apple! Macs suck!
Comment by P — 2/15/06 @ 11:41 am
Macs are crap. End of story.
Comment by Fred — 2/20/06 @ 1:39 pm
Fred, I don’t know what to say except that you are completely, wholeheartedly, without a doubt, 100%, entirely, all-encompasingly, fully, and *totally* correct. I couldn’t agree with you more. You are so right, it’s, like, scary.
Comment by P — 3/1/06 @ 1:47 pm
Notice how no Mac users have made any comments in a long while? I would suggest that it’s because it’s taking them two weeks to download this page over their sonic couplers at 150 baud, but as everyone knows Macs can’t connect to the Internet. I mean, Apple is making strides with the introduction of keyboards and the two-button mouse, but to be fair such high-falootin’ technologies will take a while before they’re adopted by Jobs’ low-browed acolytes.
I should mention, for their benefit, that you can now double your bandwidth with one of these modern babies:
http://www.syssrc.com/html/museum/html/modem_noakes300.html
However, you may wish to wait a year or so before plunking down two grand on the Apple-brand 300 baud couplers.
Comment by P — 3/1/06 @ 1:53 pm
I’m not much for religion, but I definitely go in for conspiracy theories!
What is the significance of the Apple computer originally costing $666 dollars?!? http://www.syssrc.com/html/museum/html/apple.html
Also, is it me or has Apple always ripped off other people’s products and then overcharge for them? http://www.syssrc.com/html/museum/html/applelisa.html
And I’m sorry but I don’t like where Steve Jobs has been going with all this plastic surgery. He’s worse than Michael Jackson (c’mon, it’s just a skin condition!) and, frankly, he looks kind of goat-like…devil-like: http://www.singlecell.to/images/steve_jobs.jpg
Comment by P — 3/1/06 @ 2:01 pm
Couldn’t resist…in the 1990s Apple finally put in upper *AND* lower-case text support into their computers: http://www.syssrc.com/html/museum/html/apple2e.html
Okay, so I had a 386 at the time, but it *did* come with a SHIFT key.
Comment by P — 3/1/06 @ 2:07 pm
Hahaha…all in the same morning…I haven’t even finished reading the news! Suckers…
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2642
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2151225/apple-update-responds-security
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30018
http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_iPod_Hi_Fi/4514-6519_7-31762101.html?part=cnet&subj=Apple+iPod+Hi-Fi
(check out the ratings at the bottom–actual testimonials)
US $350…let’s see…that’s about CDN$400. Seems a bit pricey for a speaker (crappy one by the sounds of it) that runs on batteries, don’t you think? Ghetto? Let’s not insult the people who actually live there.
Comment by P — 3/2/06 @ 9:29 am
Someone else who shares my view:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6553260189868317794
Some coarse languge here, but it’s understandable.
Comment by P — 3/2/06 @ 9:37 am
Seems all of Detroit is now disgruntled with Apple too:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060301/NEWS09/603010367/-1/BUSINESS07
Whatch out, Jobs, your next trip to the windy city may result in your purchase of a shiny new can of whoop-ass.
Comment by P — 3/2/06 @ 10:37 am
Still haven’t run out of steam, P?
Comment by James — 3/5/06 @ 10:43 am
There’s just so much to say, James. At some point I believe I mentioned that I could go on and on about the suckiness of the Mac. Whoop, there it is.
Also, it’s pushed up the ranking of this thread to #2 in Blue Damage’s article rankings. What better way to promulgate the true natue of Apple than through pages and pages of nail-bitingly suspenseful posts and hard-hitting rebuttals?
Finally, let’s face it, it’s just so easy! If I weren’t gainfully employed I’m sure I’d be on the street corner ranting about the evils of Apple for weeks on end without ever repeating myself (and earning a few bucks from enthralled passerbys in the process!)
Comment by P — 3/6/06 @ 9:48 am
Booyakasha! Seems like people are starting to see the light! Here’s another article supporting just about every argument I’ve made so far (and, oh so eloquently at that):
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1934140,00.asp
Comment by P — 3/6/06 @ 9:52 am
I have to say it’s unusual but Apple must be raising these guy’s ire pretty high for them to use the word “crap” in their article to describe Apple’s products!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2642
(okay, so it’s a re-post of the link above, but it’s still great to see)
Comment by P — 3/7/06 @ 8:28 am
Ouch.
http://www.techworld.com/security/news/index.cfm?NewsID=5508&inkc=0
Comment by P — 3/7/06 @ 8:29 am
Note, the article says: “Security vendors say the Mac has escaped the widespread security problems that plague Windows largely because of its small market share, rather than because it is inherently secure. The rm-my-mac administrator noted that there are some ways of locking down systems such as BSD or Linux that aren’t available for OS X.”
I’m not a security vendor, but then again, I’m not reared by sibblings. Did I mention “ouch”?
Comment by P — 3/7/06 @ 8:31 am
Welly welly welly, seems like this shenanigans has been going for a while.
http://www.techworld.com/security/news/index.cfm?newsid=1798
Why won’t someone please think of the children!
Comment by P — 3/7/06 @ 8:35 am
Is it me or is Apple constantly patching their OS?
http://secunia.com/search/?search=macintosh+security
Last update on my Windows XP machine was in September. Yo’ mama!
Comment by P — 3/7/06 @ 8:38 am
Awww…how cute! The Mac can now do true floating point calculations.
http://www.apple.com/macmini/intelcore.html
Yes, I know, it will be difficult to adjust to numbers that are “halved” or even “quartered” (whose crazy idea was that?!?), but eventually every Apple enthusiast will be able to understand this ‘New Math’ and possibly even do the calculations in their head!
Of course, one may question the necessity of using “real” numbers (that’s another name for “floating point”) in math, but with all these new “spreadsheet” softwares, people are trying all sort of half-baked, theoretical calculations which may eventually be used in real world applications. In the meantime, the Macintosh has once again proven to be well ahead of its time by giving users the versatility and power to lead a cutting edge lifestyle and adapt to an ever changing environment.
Unfortunately you still can’t open the case to swap cards, install more RAM, a new hard drive, or anything of that nature (http://www.apple.com/macmini/), but you can rest asured that you wouldn’t want to do that anyways because Apple says so. Also, there’s just no room in the case and the processor has been soughtered onto the motherboard unlike those stupid PCs with their flimsy removable processors.
Comment by P — 3/7/06 @ 8:56 am
lol whoever wrote that is an absolute idiot, but still MACS SUCK
Comment by Daniel — 3/13/06 @ 6:51 am
Daniel,
Did you think I was joking?!? I was absolutely serious! Macs could not do hardware supported floating point calculations until they switched to Intel. Do I need to add a hundred links to support my claim or will you just nod and agree?
Comment by P — 3/14/06 @ 4:45 pm
DON’T TEST ME!
Comment by P — 3/14/06 @ 4:46 pm
Wow. What heat. I have a few questions: Why is it so important to PC people that nobody works on a Mac? I’ve read through these comments, and the PC people seem to be on a bit of a crusade. Cussing at people they don’t know because they work on a different computer. This is worth burning a calorie over? You should use what works for you, and others use what works for them. It’s like some religious war – this is my faith, and anyone who doesn’t't follow my faith are fools, demons must be destroyed! Yeesh!
You don’t like Macs, don’t get a Mac. Don’t like PC’s, don’t get a PC. But all the lies about the machines and personal attacks are just a waste of what could be an informative website.
Comment by nonicknameguy — 3/21/06 @ 1:29 pm
Ok, I’m on an iMac G5 right now. I don’t care what ppl say about macs, but all I know is, I like them better than windows. They are a lot easier to handle. Better software, for pictures, video, and website building. I could care less about compatability. Your not going to be able to put MSpaint on a mac, the creators of mac wouldn’t allow it. They wouldn’t put such and inferior program on a wonderful piece of equiptment. Also, it was the mac who first came out with the “desktop”. Apple shared the desktop idea with microsoft and they took the idea. Do some research and you will find that i’m not lying. Anyways. Windows computers are so huge and luggy. They crash too many times to count. And, well, they just arean’t built very well. And the software, don’t get me started. They are soo confusing, (for the average computer user). If you go to appl.com, and see all of the downloads they have for macs, you would be in aww. There are so many. They work well, they work, good.
In conclusion, macs are better, and i dont care what any of you say, because i bet your computer will crash in the next week. Thanks.
Comment by Tony — 3/26/06 @ 5:26 pm
I am in aww. I’ll be sure to visit appl.com as soon as I restart my hanging PC. Dang, I so wish PC could have a dock like Appl. There’s this thing called Yz Dock (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2790.html) that works just like the Appl one but it runs so fast that you can’t even work with it. Like, when you move your mouse away from it gets removed from the screen. Appl was much smarter because they just keep it on the screen until you restart the compooter.
Wasn’t it nice of Appl to share its GUI idea with Microsoft? It’s also nice that they shared it with Xerox…those guys are so dumb they never would have thought of it in, like, a million kazillion years. Like monkeys on typewriters. And yeah, you’re right Tony, the number of times my PC crashes is, like, well, I can’t count that high either. I find it confusing just to look at a PC. Like when you turn it around, they have all these different coloured ports…what’s that all about? And on an Appl I can stick my mouse into any round opening but on a PC they make me do it only one way and in only one specific port. They’re worse than the Khmer Rouge!
When you mention software, I don’t know if I fully agree with you. There is a lot of PC softwares on the market. But when you look at what the softwares is then you can see that it is just a bunch of stupid garbage, so what if there is more of it? Like that Micorsoft Office…that’s like a total ripoff of iLife…and Micorsoft puts in so many stupid things like databases…who uses that?!? Also, like you said, the softwares work, good. I bet Bill “Phol Pot” Gates will be rolling around in his grave when the new Intel Mac starts to become popular. They should call it an “iMac” (like, intel+Mac); that would be good for marketing.
Comment by mini P — 3/27/06 @ 9:06 am
For the benefit of our readers, I should point out that the “i” in iMac was intended to stand for the self-referencing “I” (remember, there was no interweb access so the “i” couldn’t mean anything like “internet”)
I would note the use of the pejorative lowercase letter buttressed up against the menaing wall of the “M”. This is clearly intended to put all of “you” into place…you are puny and meaningless when it comes to *MAC*. Serve your Appl masters!
Comment by P — 3/27/06 @ 9:25 am
nonicknameguy, you need to get a shorter nick.
Beside this, you are right to say that it is a bit religious…I think that’s a point I’ve made a number of times in previous posts. I’ve also gotten into matches with people who don’t “trust” Macromedia Flash under the same pretended “logical” arguments. These are similar to those made by Jahova’s Witnesses who have put forth the claim (no kidding here): ‘Finally! Scientific Evidence of the Existence Of God …
The proof is quite simple; the breadth and width of this existence is far too beautiful and grand not to have been created by a greater intelligence, so therefore God *must* exist!”. I had to bite my tongue to avoid calling them all sorts of derogatory terms before launching into their grand “proof”. It’s not that I’m such a bright guy, but this type of reasoning is so offensive as to be insinuating that I’m stupid for even spending my time listening to it!
I wouldn’t be so quick to come back and call Apple users damn-dirty-hippie-idiots but to this day I have yet to read a single shred of external evidence to support their claims. For example, you’ll notice that I went to great lengths to support my arguments with links. Okay…not really great lengths, the evidence is ovewrhelming and just dropped in my lap, but I put forth at least that minimal effort.
Sure, the links I provide may be skewed and it’s possible that they’re outright lies, but at least I’ve gone to the bother of backing up my claims through them. If anyone in the Mac community bothered to do this as well then I’d give a little more credence to their arguments. I may try to disprove them but at least I’ve seen that there was an effort made instead of simply stating, “every knows such and such”. This type of statmenent screams “I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!”
I wonder why there is a lack of posts made in support of the Mac with actual backup evidence. Sometimes I think it’s because there is no evidence to support such statements. Sometimes I think its because the only evidence that may be had is being provided by Apple (vested interest!?!) and they’ve been caught red-handed lying on their stats more than once (I’ll be happy to provide links if you like…good reading!). At other times I fancy that your basic Apple user just doesn’t “get” all those big numbers and wierd acronyms. Sure, the typeface may be nice but what does it all mean? Is it an unwillingness to understand such basic concepts as a light switch (the building block of computer logic), or is it an inability to do so, an unfortunate twist in the cruel fate of nature which produces the hapless half-wit? Also, I’ve often wondered how such cranially challenged individuals could afford such machines which, as I would be happy to demonstrate again, are much more expensive than their PC counterparts. But then I remember the magic of modern credit cards and it all falls into place.
A number of other questions have lingered with me for a long time. For example, how could anyone believe that a two-button mouse was “too much” for even the average computer user? (Note that Apple still insists on shipping with their one-big-button mouse) When you stop to think about it, the lack of opposable thumbs would make such a mouse a necessity so it’s in keeping with my original line of thinking. There have been arguments over originality (i.e. Apple users are original, free-thinking people) but I fail to see how a single choice of colour in Apple’s entire product line (with the exception of iPod…that’s three choices) makes one an individual. The OS is still closed off just like previous Mac systems and the customization in that takes the place of: “Do you want a blue, white, green, or gray background?”
Perhaps it’s just Apple product ownership that makes you an individual, like a Coco Chanel sticker on a $2000 hand bag? I guess this is solely personal experience from my time being forced to work with Macs (read: Hell on earth) but the people in the office were almost identical clones of one another. After all, in order to be trendy and fashionable you must mould yourself to the whims of the season. This is the *exact* opposite of individuality. It is group-think, subservience, and a complete lack of individuality. No brain required (or requested).
So, when you mention that this is a bit of religious thing, I would agree but only from the side of Apple users. If I can offer empirical evidence underlying my arguments, it it a religious view or a scientific statement? I have provided such evidence on numerous occasions, Apple users haven’t done so once. Apple users are therefore religiously blind zealots following their impotent leader to a world more akin a living nightmare than a Utopia. But I don’t lose sleep over this because I still believe that there are some people out there who think with their brains instead of heir ass and are willing to subject their opinions to logical investigation. After all, if my six-year-old nephew can work on a Windows PC with ease and Mac users persist that the Mac is easier to use than a PC, logic follows that they are necessarily more stupid than a six-year-old (and he’s not stupid, he just hasn’t had the chance to build up his experience yet!). This argument (Mac easier than PC) has been used numerous times; so what then are we to make of the average Apple user? Answer: Thick as bricks – quod erat demonstrandum!
At the end of the day, when you have religous zealotry flying in the face of all that is clearly self-evident and provable, and it still persists on maintaining that it is correct…that just ticks me right off. Wars start over that sort of thing and in the end have really nothing to do with the belief in the first place. This is a paradoxical double-blind conclusion that can only be come to by a complete lack of self-awareness. This is known as Apple Zombieism. What’s left are simply vacuous, human-shaped shells
refferring to themselves as “original” and “cool” (terms which must have been implanted by Apple because no original thoughts are present) and, left to their own devices, will follow each other off the edges of cliffs or run blindly onto freeways in front of oncoming traffic. Nature will right its wrongs and logic and calm will prevail. *Sigh* I just wish it were sooner.
Comment by P — 3/27/06 @ 10:27 am
nonicknameguy, in answer to your first question…it doesn’t matter to me if you use a Mac or a PC. I just find it offensive when people throw out ridiculous arguments in support of their poor choices…It’s akin to calling me stupid because they actually think that that sort of tripe can pass as a logical, cohesive argument. If they don’t care to convert anyone, they shouldn’t make such statements. After all, if you put something ina public forumn then you should expect public replies. If it’s intended for the public, and I count myself as a member of that group, then I am a part of the intended target and I am being insulted by vulgar, idiotic arguments. I will *definitely* let you know what I think, especially when the arguments you put forth are nothing short of asinine.
To demonstrate, imagine I made the statement that men, in general, are better than women because they can fly and shoot lazers out of their eyes. Initally you’d chuckle and maybe post a funnyreply, but what if I persisted to insist on this being the case. After all, in 1968 in Pasadena, California, three hundred men flew up to meet the remnants of Hitler’s airborne army in a nucler face-off in the upper atmospehere. Everyone knows this and you can find the links on the internet of you look hard enough. If I had the worldly knoweldge of a three-year-old, I may skeptically buy this, but that’s a hard pill to swallow for anyone else. If you were generally ignorant of history and men in general you may also believe this to be possible. However, how far would you continue to place faith in such statements when faced with numerous links and references showing that, in fact, men can’t shoot lazers out of their eyes and such things never happened.
Of course, the arguments made by Mac users sound much more plausible than this but are no less ridiculous to anyone who invests even a bit of time investigating them. To continue to believe in such tripe constitues excessive and willful ignorance.
In this example, when I mention “you” I don’t mean you specifically but the collective, Mac-using “YOU” out there (you should know who you are…probably don’t, but you should).
Comment by P — 3/27/06 @ 10:52 am
*chuckle*
Oh that Apple…wlll they ever learn?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2105800,00.html
Comment by P — 3/27/06 @ 11:39 am
Now both France and Denmark are in the fray with Apple accusing them of locking off their system and forcing people to use their own technology exclusively:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30588
You can accuse me of having a one-track mind but…haven’t I been saying this since my first post?
Down with Apple!
Comment by P — 3/28/06 @ 1:09 pm
Well, it’s nice that Apple is *finally* allowing choice on their hardware:
http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=t&ct=ca/1-0&fp=443389961e628d08&ei=0_kzRI2UPIjyoQLh4JD0BQ&url=http%3A//www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8GPUVC00.htm%3Fcampaign_id%3Dapn_tech_down%26chan%3Dtc&cid=1105542409
I was dual-booting BSD (yes, the very same sub-system that the Mac runs on) and Windows) more than 10 years ago with no prior experience. Once again I feel justified in calling Mac “hackers” highschool dropouts. Is this the cutting-edge of Mac technical knowledge…a little less than a 16-year-old hischool student?
Comment by P — 4/5/06 @ 12:14 pm
Jobs and the new iBookend: http://www.wired.com/news/images/full/7630571_f.jpg
Apple’s next big thing for ‘06:
http://www.professional.co.at/Apple/Bilder/Personen/BilderIvanekNorbertLondon/Steve_Jobs_02_150604.jpg
“What do you mean I haven’t changed my short or pants in five years?”:
http://www.professional.co.at/Apple/Bilder/Personen/Apple-SteveJobs-2.jpg
iConman:
http://www.938live.sg/administration/cms/pic/Fresh/icon-steve%20jobs.jpg
And it still costs a mint:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/01/torquemada.jpg
I told you to quit with them stupid questions! Now you’ve gone and made me take my belt off! Remember, this is gonna hurt you more than it hurts me:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Stevejobs_Macworld2005.jpg/200px-Stevejobs_Macworld2005.jpg
iZombies:
http://www.macorama.net/izombie.jpg
“Look, Steve, I got another gig to get to. This convention bites”:
http://alt1040.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/preparacion_para_el_keynote.jpg
“What, me worry?”:
http://img.ihned.cz/attachment.php/12448250/Lt31fsJbhGKglRkyenIvqHxpFW0j52DB/20051014_v_foto-vydania-Steve-Jobs-sef-Apple.jpg
The iSuppository:
http://images.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/specialevent05/images/sjobs090505.jpg
The truth comes out!:
http://wiredblogs.tripod.com/cultofmac/jobs_dell_01.jpg
Want some some of this candy in y pocket, little girl?:
http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/reuters_molt/509983153.jpg
“The next iMac will have a set *THIS* big. Who wouldn’t be willing to pay extra for that?”:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2004/10/14/jobs.jpg
Well, if the iPod says it, it must be true:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/26/ipod_steve.jpg
Love me! Adore me! Lest I crush you with my gient ego!:http://www.trends.be/articlestendances/37374/images/portraits/j/jobs_steve.jpg
What’s next? More iCrap:
http://www.trends.be/articlestendances/37374/images/portraits/j/jobs_steve1.jpg
Impressing the audience with pretty colours and shiny things:
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030630/login/it3.jpg
“And over the coming year, we will sell all you chumps up the river like some blogs have suggested”:
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/06/13/next_jobs3_june14,0.jpg
Comment by P — 4/7/06 @ 2:45 pm
Laws? Rights? Not with Apple!
If they had they’re way, we would be living in a totalitarian regime kow-towing to jobs before each meal. BEWARE!
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/OS02baYC9UgJhW/Judges-Grill-Apple-in-Trade-Secrets-Appeal.xhtml
Comment by P — 4/21/06 @ 11:43 am
Transcript of Hunter Cressal’s Experiences with a Macintosh:
“Editing is all Mac based now, i mean there are programs out ther eon the PC whether you’re using Avid or Finalcut Pro…you’re working on a Mac.
Using a Mac’s a little different than a PC. It’s not so much operating a computer as it is ‘tricking it’, ‘fooling it’ into what it is you really want it to do. You kinda have to sneak up on a Mac.
I don’t feel like I’m operating a Mac as I’m just there sharing the Mac experience, and if I can do something useful while the Mac is willing, so much the better.
One of the coolest features the Macintosh has is that, it’s really easy to shut down. You just have to be using a piece of software and then POOF, it goes away. It’s gone. It shut down. You didn’t push any buttons, you didn’t close, you didn’t even save, it’s just gone.
Unless you wanna shut down a Mac, oh that’s a different story. I mean you try to close a program and the system locks up and you do that, what is it, the clover leaf period thing?
UNNATURAL AND ULTIMATELY USELSS INTERRUPT KEY.
Then nothing moves. Then you push the power button and it won’t shut off! You go around and unplug it and you better hope you’re not on a Laptop because then you have to find the damn battery or the thing’ll never shut down!
So I put my CD into the CD-Rom tray and I’m copying media off of that CD. Draggin it onto my desktop, draggin it onto my desktop, draggin it onto my desktop. I eject the disk and…where did my files go? It’s the only operating system I know of where click and drag doesn’t mean you copy or move anything, no you’re just making shortcuts on your desktop!
So I’ve got my next CD and I slam it into the CD-tray and lo and behold it starts playing all by itself! I’m looking for a way to shut it off, finally out of desperation I click and drag the CD into the garbage bin and the system locks up. So I do the clover leaf period spacebar thing and I get a little caution menu saying ‘Warning, Interrupting this program may lock up the system.’ I try to push OK BUT THE SYSTEM’S ALREADY LOCKED UP.
(Showcases a Mac Monitor)
I like the little handle here. That’s so you can attack a chain and use it as a BOAT ANCHOR!
The Mac is practicing some form of bizarre psychological warfare on me because I’m working late at night, out of the corner of my eye I see this thing jumping up and down. The update manager is bouncing at the bottom of the screen like a jack-russel f*cking terrier.
So I’m looking at the list of files of the executables it wants me to update…and if I click on any one of them by accident I RENAME IT!
Oh no it’s been renamed nothing, it was some type of important system file AND THE COMPUTER CRASHES.
On a PC no data is really lost, I mean there’s a way to undelete a file. If you know what you’re doing in DOS you can recover ANY file that’s been corrupted.
On a Mac, if you lose a file. You RUN to the store buy the mac version of Norton Utilities only to have Norton go “YOU IDIOT, YOU OWN A MACINTOSH. THE FILE IS F*CKING GONE. IT’S GONE.
Don’t have any tools or any kind of buttons, dials or switches on the bottom of the screen because if you reach for them the DOC menu pops up.
You have to like angle around it and slide and doge the thing, it’s kind of like BOXING with your COMPUTER.
I can put it on the BOTTOM i can put it on the LEFT i can put it on the RIGHT NOOOOOOO I can’t put it on the top. That’s reserved for the might blue apple.
My name is Hunter Cressal and I put together eeeverything you saw tonight…on a Macintosh.
Mac killed my inner child.”
Comment by Daniel — 4/26/06 @ 8:56 pm
Hehehe…fresh as the day I first saw it. Classic.
Comment by P — 5/1/06 @ 3:55 pm
Lets all get along and use linux
Comment by bill — 5/24/06 @ 3:54 pm
But if you don’t wanna use linux then don’t use a mac they suckkkkk
here look at dis
1. Put chewing gum in the floppy drive
2. T#2 causes thisouch a live wire (capacitor) to the parallel port
3. Leave it for someone else to use
4. Laugh at it
5. Take the keyboard or mouse
6. Flick it off
7. See how well it works in an oven
8. See what happens to it after a 5 story drop
9. Change the boot files, oops!! there aren’t any, well just delete the system folder
10. Turn it upside down and let it freak out the next person to use it
11. Sell it and buy a pack of gum
12. Taunt it with a PC
13. Laugh at it some more
14. Give it to aliens, then laugh at the aliens
15. Humiliate it in front of other macs
16. Use it as a cheap paper weight
17. Put an Intel Inside sticker on it
18. Feed it to your dog
19. Use it to scoop up your dog’s crap
20. Use the mouse as a laso
21. Use it as a step ladder
22. Use it as a plunger
23. Try to sell it as a cheap, slow commodore
24. Race it against a lobotomized snail, film snail taunting mac at finish line
25. Give it to someone you hate with a PC emulator card, tell them it is an intergrated Compaq, it’ll run like a 286-5, make their computing life a living hell
26. Most elementary schools own them, And then they wonder why illiteracy is so high.
Comment by bill — 5/24/06 @ 3:56 pm
Fanboys clash with fanboys.
It’s not pretty.
But god it’s hilarious
Comment by Cluckyx — 5/29/06 @ 8:57 pm
Is anyone on this forum above the age of 13? If you all are having so many problems with Macs, it is because you are INCREDIBLY stupid. Try using the machine for more than 20 minutes to unleash its potential.
Macs are more expensive because they use the end-to-end model which parallels software production with hardware production which usually lends itself to a more stable combination. Mac has come out with 5 new OSs in the last 5 years, during which Windows has repeatedly delayed unveiling Longhorn. Not only is the latest version of OSX widely considered the best consumer operating system, but the Mac has been called the best consumer desktop by WSJ’s Walt Mossberg. Macs do not get virus problems not just because more are written for Windows (which is closed source, meaning the problems will not be solved until a newer version of Windows is released) but because OSX is UNIX based, therefore people all around the world are commissioned to write anti-virus software for UNIX, which is weekly updated free of charge on Macs in their Security Updates. The release of Intel chips on the new Macs has quintupled the already impressive processing speeds (which may sometimes appear slower to some, but that is because the graphic overhead on a Mac is twice that of any Windows machine) on Apple machines.
I have had my G4 iMac for three years and it has not crashed ONCE! I have not had a single problem with it. Does anyone have any REAL arguments?
Comment by nthn200 — 5/30/06 @ 5:24 pm
Hey, you sound INCREDIBLY stupid too, nthn200.
Macs are more expensive because they use bone marrow from human orphans. 5 new OSs? I only seem to recall one, Mac 3.11 which really sucked. A friend showed it to me. Walt Mossberg? Who the hell is that? Hey, Windows was called the best consumer desktop by Abe Vigoda. Yeah, I can make up names too, jerk. I’m sure Macs can’t get viruses either. Just as Gerome Bennett about that.
Yes, I have real arguments. Come back when you stop using a computer that sucks so much at everything and we’ll talk like grown ups, junior.
Comment by Recipher — 5/30/06 @ 5:27 pm
The five are: OSX 10.0, aka Cheetah, OSX 10.1 aka Puma, OSX 10.2 aka Jaguar, OSX 10.3 aka Panther, and OSX 10.4 aka Tiger. Walt Mossberg is one of the most prominent technical analysts in the world and he writes for the Wall Street Journal (WSJ?).
“Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger is “a beautiful and powerful operating system that advances personal computing,” offers Walt Mossberg, writing for the Wall Street Journal. Saying that the Tiger “leaves Windows XP in the dust,” he maintains that “Tiger is the best and most advanced personal computer operating system on the market. It also adds to the Mac’s general superiority over typical Windows computers”
Still haven’t seen a real argument. What computer experience do you have exactly, little guy?
Comment by nthn200 — 5/30/06 @ 6:17 pm
Nice to see that you can make up operating systems names. The only operating system for a Mac at the moment is Mac OS 3.11. I just checked from a friend, he has a Mac. He said that the only thing you can run on it is Microsoft Bob. Why are you lying to me?
Walt Mossberg isn’t a prominent technical analyst. Explain to me why he is again? Because he works for the Wall Street Journal? I don’t know if you know this or not, but, the WSJ is one of the most renown publications for lies and deceit, something you will get a lot of if you use a Mac computer.
I have a lot of experience with computers. I downloaded AOL and installed it all by myself on my Dell, which is pretty awesome. It’s super fast, way faster than any Mac computer. I can also clear out my temporary internet files without any tutorial. I bet you can’t even do that, jerkface.
Comment by Recipher — 5/30/06 @ 9:49 pm
http://macs.about.com/od/osx/a/osx_manuals.htm
That website will show you all of the versions of OSX. How fast is your Dell by the way? If your processor is slower than 2GHz and has less than 2GB of RAM (which it most certainly does) than you are dead wrong. Those are the specs for the new breed of laptops, which is about double that of a Dell that has come out in the last three years and about five times faster.
Here’s an excerpt about Walt Mossberg:
Newsweek magazine calls Mr. Mossberg “the most powerful arbiter of consumer tastes in the computer world today.” Time magazine calls him “the most influential computer journalist.” And Rolling Stone calls him “the most powerful columnist in technology.”
Here’s the website that that is from:
http://ptech.wsj.com/walt.html
I feel sorry for you people. You obviously know nothing about computers which means you are either under the age of 12, over the age of 40, or you are going to have a hard time finding a job in the future.
Comment by nthn200 — 5/31/06 @ 12:15 pm
That website is the biggest bullshit excuse I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen A LOT of websites. I see you have to make up web pages to support your claims; a typical Mac user. It’s happened before on here.
My Dell is a 1GHz straight out of the box. I’ve done certain mods to it like install Norton virus software which makes it 2-3 X faster than most Mac computers. I can surf the internets with crazy speed through AOL, something you can’t do on a stupid Mac. Does Mac 3.11 have the crazy speed internet software bundled with it? Didn’t think so.
Here’s an excerpt about Abe Vigoda, the guy who called Windows ME the “end all” of the OS wars:
Rolling Stone calls him “The Chuck Norris of this technology shit.” Wall Street Journal said, “Abe Vigoda’s technological genius is only matched by his dire thirst for placentas.”
I feel sorry for you: only because you use a Mac. Bitch.
Comment by Recipher — 5/31/06 @ 1:58 pm
AOL? Enjoy getting fucked up the ass with pop-ups! Isn’t Abe Vigoda Tessio from ‘The Godfather’? Yeah, I thought so. I’ll see you in ten years when you’ve joined the Apple bandwagon. I’m out.
Comment by nthn200 — 5/31/06 @ 2:42 pm
What the hell’s wrong with AOL? AOL IS THE BEST INTERNET YOU CAN USE! Also, what is the Godfather? You don’t know what you are talking about so you have to continue to make stuff up. I’ll see YOU in ten years on the news when you’ve joined some underground Mac 3.11 circus cult and died drinking kool-aid with arsenic to help transcend the “spirit of Steve Jobs.” Fucking freak.
Die in a fire.
Your biggest fan,
Recipher
Comment by Recipher — 5/31/06 @ 2:58 pm
well,i juz found out dis fake news thingy and i saw dis title..
okie here the thing..
Mac>>im using it and i love it..noe y?bcoz it look dam fukin cool..i luv the graphic..im juz feel like fukin it…but too bad!!motherfuker mac juz cannot play any games!oh my fuking mary n joseph..wat the fuk v the teenagers wan a computer for??play fuking games!!wat the hell mac can do?create porn…since the graphic soo nice
Pc>>i used pc b4 i got a mac..it is soo dam nice!can play game and can do watever i wan!!but..fuk u!y every1 is using window is soo dam fukin borin 4 me>.tat’s the reason i change 2 mac..but aiz..still got problem with it
oh well..i hope sum day there is sumthing tat suit’ 4 me
tats’ all
the one who got stucked between mac n pc
matt~
Comment by matty — 6/8/06 @ 12:09 am
macs do view pictures better and do access the internet better, they dont allow ANY pop-ups unless you permit them and dont get viruses, my sis has a mac (G5) and it kicks ass, never freezes, displays pictures quickly loads websites quickly and altogether is better… except the one button mouse and incompatibility with alot of programs puts me off
Comment by newgrounds — 6/8/06 @ 11:37 am
It’s back! The flame is back like a rash! You know, the kind you get from your Mac-using whores!
matty, that’s gotta be one of the *best* comments in this entire thread. No really, that tops anything I could ever even dream of. Hats off to you!
nthn200, thanks for the invite on the Apple bandwagon (I know you were addressing Recipher but I’m sure you meant all of us). You’re probably entirely correct, in ten years Apple will be much more ubiquitous. With their move towards Intel and dual-booting they are slowly making inroads into the PC world. Pretty soon they’ll be able to read NTFS and other PC-based file systems. After that they’ll start running Windows apps and begin full compatibility with Windows drivers and hardware devices. After that, heck, slap an apple on the side of my box and call me a rebel (with expendable income). The truly L33T will be pushing the boundaries as much as possible trying to get their apple boxes to run as close to Windows machines as possible, though I imagine they’ll still try to retain some of that ingenious Mac interface like the window that can only be resized from one corner, or the fabulous dock that obstructs this only venue to window resizing, and who would want to do away with the amazing widgets that block all your applications while they’re on screen (why multitask when you don’t *need* to?). Yes, I’m sure the Apple Macintosh with all it’s full PC-like glory will be *everywhere*!
Comment by P — 6/8/06 @ 4:37 pm
newgrounds –
Pros: “better” picture display (what exactly does that mean),
pop-up blocking and “better” internet access (again, what DOES that mean?)
Cons: Treated like a one-fingered moron (one mouse)
General inability to use a computer for *most* computer related tasks (incompatibility)
Does this argument seem to favour the Mac to you? Oh…my bad. I forgot you prefer the Mac, it doesn’t have to make sense or even be grounded in reality. My appologies!
Comment by P — 6/8/06 @ 4:43 pm
Recipher-
“kool-aid with arsenic to help transcend the “spirit of Steve Jobs.””
Actually, I think it was cyanide, but your point is well taken. Still, I don’t think it’s constructive to call Apple fans “freaks”. After all, I don’t think they choose to be so terribly mentally challenged. It’s much like Steve Jobs wearing the same black shirt and blue jeans for the last decade…he stinks like a dirty gorilla and the crusties are really building up in the basement but he just doesn’t have the mental capacity to imagine taking the clothes off let alone changing into something else.
I understand your impatience; these people are allowed to drive cars, mingle among the general populace, vote, and you’re required to tolerate them as they suck on the tips if their fingers vainly trying to understand the myriad choices available to them at the coffee counter in front of you. I understand it’s trying and lord knows I’ve felt your anger. If I can offer any advice it’s to take some small consolation in the fact that, given enough time, most Apple enthusiasts will wander out into high speed traffic, lose their sex organs in an unimaginable (to us) computing accident, or eat/drink the cleaners they find under their kitchen sink. After all, these are the very people who incite the government to enforce the the most obvious and asinine warning labelling on items and try to convince industry to use less and less toxic substances in their products. Thank the powers that be, however, for the continued existence of firecrackers, sharp objects, and anything that will fit one way into the rectum…these are the great levellers.
I urge you to believe and…next time you encounter such a person, laugh off your anger, shake your head, pat them on the back saying “you must be a Mac user!”, and offer to sell them a pre-release “upgrade” to their computer (or iPod…they *will* have both) that has been personally developed by Jobs himself. Turn your frown into cash!
Comment by P — 6/8/06 @ 4:58 pm
bill –
Well, OSX is BSD (you remember, Linux’s less well-known and lesss-developed cousin from the early 90s?), so in a way the Mac *is* using Linux…a crappy, limited version of it. You’re probably wondering, “but how the hell does it run so slowly with a Unix-based OS?”.
*sigh*
How many ways can you turn the solid foundation of a house into a marshy pond replete with a pervasive smell of dank urine? I wish I had answer for you Bill, I really do.
Comment by P — 6/8/06 @ 5:09 pm
cluckyx wrote:
“Fanboys clash with fanboys.
It’s not pretty.
But god it’s hilarious ”
I dunno if you can call PC users “fans” (short for fanatic, let’s not forget). I don’t go around with a Microsoft logo emblazoned on my T-shirt or sporting a dull, round-cornered (keep those Apple users’ eyes safe) box with white headphones in order to try desparately to fit in. As I’d mentioned previously, I’m not so much defending the PC (which admitedly has many faults) but rather to try and rebuke the asinine and plainly insulting arguments being put forth in Apple’s defence.
If, for example, someone simlpy came forward and said, “Yeah, it’s more expensive and I don’t really have much experience with technology but I bought an Apple because I like the way it looks.” … then I would really have nothing to say. It’s when the Assintosh folks start to throw around meaningless terminology and try to sound like they have any concept of what they’re talking about, that’s when it’s appropriate to rip a side off them. It’s pretentious and I’ve spent enough time in my professional life dealing with techno-wannabies that it really yanks my chain. I studied computer technology and it’s my profession so if there’s an opportunity to set the record straight by someone who actually knows what he’s talking about then that’s what should be done.
Not only do I have indepth experience with computer hardware/software but I’ve also had the unfortunate opportunity to spend almost a year working on a Mac (see numerous posts above). Contrary to being “turned” to a Mac fan, I’ve developed an even greater dislike for the machine and the whole company, having seen every aspect of it from software/hardware development to support. I have yet to find anyone with a true understanding of digital technology who can say that Macs are in any way superior to PCs and have found that, after some true questioning, most Mac supporters are exposed for the jargon-spewing wannabies that they really are.
But, what irks me is not that they don’t understand (hell, there’s so much I don’t know)….it’s their continued pretense that they DO. It’s the aire of arrogance and snobbery that they display in defence of their position which is, in all actuality, nothing but hot air.
I guess it boils down to me not liking posers. And that’s what Mac people are…willfully ignorant, arrogant, snobbish, stubborn, thick-as-bricks posers.
So…does that clear up the position? It’s not a technology thing, it’s a moral obligation to dispel the awful lies, half-truths, and jargon-filled nonsense that the Apple brigade has hoisted on modern western civilization!
Comment by P — 6/12/06 @ 9:21 am
nthn200 posted:
\”Try using the machine for more than 20 minutes to unleash its potential.\”
-> I did, and that\’s why I feel such vitriolic hatred towards the continued insistence that it\’s in any way better. The potential of a Mac is its weight which can be used as a bookend. It really is a horribly constructed machine….end-to-end.
nthn200 posted:
\”Macs are more expensive because they use the end-to-end model which parallels software production with hardware production which usually lends itself to a more stable combination. Mac has come out with 5 new OSs in the last 5 years, during which Windows has repeatedly delayed unveiling Longhorn.\”
-> And yet they haven\’t put out a new machine in each of those years. Excatly how long is your attention span that you can disprove your own argumnent in the same sentence! And if I can point something out, Microsoft doesn\’t produce its own hardware so the comparison is pointless.
nthn200 posted:
\” Not only is the latest version of OSX widely considered the best consumer operating system, but the Mac has been called the best consumer desktop by WSJ’s Walt Mossberg.\”
-> *sigh* A hardware/software review by a Financial columnist; really…this is the best you can come up with? His bio states:
\”…he spent 18 years covering national and international affairs before turning his attention to technology…he graduated from Brandeis University and the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.\”
Wow! The qualifications are STAGGERING! He must ooze technology from every pore in his body. Once again, you have demonstrated just how *expert* Apple enthusiasts are in their field and what kind of incoherent drivel they\’re willing to buy from *anyone* to support their position.
BTW, the \”end-to-end\” model you mention ( http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20060511.html ) just means that Apple controls the entirety of their product. No choice of any kind. Should I continue?
nthn200 posted:
\”Macs do not get virus problems not just because more are written for Windows (which is closed source, meaning the problems will not be solved until a newer version of Windows is released) …\”
-> Pure, unadulterated ignorance:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-12-2006/0004378481&EDATE=
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2156027/apple-plugs-quicktime-security
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/14562894.htm
http://www.net-security.org/advisory.php?id=6256
— These are just the links I found in a single search on Google news. Your astounding ignorance is just amazing.
nthn200 posted:
\”but because OSX is UNIX based, therefore people all around the world are commissioned to write anti-virus software for UNIX, which is weekly updated free of charge on Macs in their Security Updates.\”
- What kind of head-up-the-ass statement is that? Where the hell did you get this information from? Some \”people\” out there…somewhere…writing some sort of generic, work-anywhere, magic Unix software that will run in all sorts of Unix flavours including OSX…comissioned by …Apple? Or just working for free for the hell of it? Goddamn….this is so stupid as to not even warrant a reply.
nthn200 posted:
\”The release of Intel chips on the new Macs has quintupled the already impressive processing speeds (which may sometimes appear slower to some, but that is because the graphic overhead on a Mac is twice that of any Windows machine) on Apple machines.\”
-> Argh!!! What the hell is Mac showing on their magical displays that you don\’t see on a PC?!? Are they using some sort of 3D projection technology or something?!? YOU ARE A MORON! Resolution and bit depth determine graphic overhead and these are THE SAME for both PC and the Mac. In fact, the Mac uses PC hardware for its display (and most of its guts). YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU\’RE TALKING ABOUT! YOU ARE AN APPLE USER!!!!
nthn200 posted:
\”I have had my G4 iMac for three years and it has not crashed ONCE! I have not had a single problem with it. Does anyone have any REAL arguments?\”
-> Read my numerous posts in this thread, sucka! How abotu backing up your argument with links or some stats? iMacs are *THE WORST* single machines ever put out! Tell me, bright guy, how are you going to upgrade your memory or video card? What if you want a bigger hard drive, or two drives? How about if your CD gets stuck in the drive…how do you get it out? If your monitor fizzles out (or any component for that matter), can you just swap it or is the whole box trash? If you want to use another OS (not Windows necessarily…say Linux or BeOS)…can you do that? When you walk into a software store (or do software shopping online), how inadequate does it make you feel? How hot does the iMac get (with all the components squished into that stupid vertical package) and how do you keep it cooled properly (I\’ve seen two actually catch on fire!)? How original does it make you feel to be able to customize your OS to a range of 3 whole different colour schemes! How wonderfully freeing is it to only have that piece of crap iTunes player to hook up with your over-priced iPod (I know you have one!) and only be able to use music from Apple\’s online music store ( http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2006/tc20060612_414966.htm?chan=technology_technology+index+page_today\’s+top+stories )?
How does it feel to be completely at the whim and mercy of Apple for every single little change to your OS ( http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/05/17/78300_21OPcurve_1.html )? And since you mentioned it, how does it fel to shell out a few grand each time Apple chooses to upgrade their software because of their amazing \”end-to-end\” design?
You\’re an ignorant idiot. Straight up, grade-A, certified ignoramus. Your head could not possibly be shoved any farther up your ass lest it should emerge from your mouth.
Comment by P — 6/12/06 @ 9:25 am
when people get serious and pissed off it makes me laugh
Comment by TJ — 6/16/06 @ 5:53 pm
I am writing this on an iBook g4. Macs and Apple computers in general are the most powerful computers out there today. Pixar uses Macs. I have a peecee and it SUCKS. I have to reimage my pc every two weeks because of all the fuckin spyware and viruses out there. I only use a peecee because I am an A+ certified tech And It’s required for me to do my job. I also have my ACDT, ACPT and my Mac OS 10.4 Tiger OS certifications. Here are several reasons why peecees suck. 1) I have a 300mhz Powerbook G3 that beats out my friends hewlett packard pentium 4 2ghz surfing the internet. 2) That Powerbook also has 512MB of RAM which was nearly impossible to find in a pc laptop in 1998. 3)That powerbook can read peecee networks, write pc viruses and hack out windows xp while being completely undetected because peecees can’t read HFS and HFS+ without special software while Macs can read DOS, FAT, FAT32, and NTFS without extra software. Imagine what I can do with my iBook. 4) A peecee fag dumped water on that powerbook while it was running and It got soaked and it didn’t even freeze up, all I had to do was click Shut Down, Wait 5 days for it to dry out and it booted up with no problems. 5)I have an Apple IIgs which came out in 1986 that has 8MB of RAM, Mac OS 7.5.5, and a 1GB external hard drive that can connect to the internet, send and receive email, and is invulnerable to viruses. I will say to those who say its impossibleto do this to do some research and you will find people with similar machines. Even though it’s slow it works fine. Try that with a 286 (if you can even install win 95 on it) I probably shouldn’t even mention that Apple’s new “Boot Camp” software can run windoze xp at full native speed and with LESS CRASHES. A peecee can’t do THAT with OS X, oh, I’m sorry, a peecee can’t run OS X at all.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 6/18/06 @ 4:17 pm
I think it’s funny how the response isn’t I respect your point of view but I think differently. It’s always ZOMG I WILL KILL Y0U AND YOUR HOLE FAMILY MAC IS 1337 $K337 GO TO HELL!!!!11!!!!111 seriously it is a fact that macs blow massive alien balls and microsoft is the technological deity of our generation if mac was so good then why did bill gates almost took over apple but the government wouldnt let him because he would have a monopoly (too bad if he would have then ppl would quit humping this issue and find something else to argue about)
Comment by punani — 6/18/06 @ 6:35 pm
TJ, that kind of comment PISSES ME OFF TO NO END!! GO TO HELL! PC IS 1337 $K337!
McHacker… A+ certified something, that’s for sure. BTW, there’s no such A+ certification…or did you go to Ohio Upstairs PC and Aesthetics College?. Dual booting has been around for over a decade and the reason that XP is running at full speed is because…IT IS! OSX doesn’t run in the background. If XP is crashing less that’s just XP, Apple has no part in that. You actually think that OSX is running in the background somehow “monitoring” the OS? Where did you say you got your “certification” from again?
punani – Yes….MASSIVE alien balls. But Gates isn’t God either…he’s just a really good business man. As regards to humping this issue, look how long it’s been going on!!! Imagine the orgasm at the end of this one. Keep on humping!
Comment by P — 6/19/06 @ 7:49 am
McHacker: “I’m sorry, a peecee can’t run OS X at all”
Well, I don’t know about that…has it been tried? I suspect, however, that you are probably right. OSX was written for very specific hardware (Apple) so it probably doesn’t have any drivers for anything but that. Put it on a generic PC and it’ll probably crap out. Windows, on the other hand, must run on X amount of hardware and has to support so many different configurations. It’s not tied to hardware like the Mac; and that’s why you’re Jobs’ bitch.
Comment by P — 6/19/06 @ 7:57 am
Hey p (enis),
I may be Job’s bitch, but how many times have you done it to ol’ billy? Oh and heres a link to CompTIAs website. http://www.comptia.org/certification/a/?nav=quick
No A+ certification my ass. Plus, hardware is the most crucial aspect of computers, and thats why Macs are superior. Another thing, Mac OS X has all the code necessary to run on intel hardware, which I’m sorry to say that Apple has started to use for their processors. So, if you wanted to it might be possible to run OS X on a peecee with some modifications to the code. It also has drivers for all common printers, scanners, digital cameras, pc keyboards and mice (etc, etc) and several not so common brands such as NEC peripherals. It’s not “tied” to any specific hardware. Back to the xp thing, I am fully aware of dual–boot, and I’m not referring to software, I’m referring to hardware. Apple hardware rus xp as fast if not faster then dell, gateway, or hp. The only problems with microsoft hardware and other platforms is that our “friend” billy PURPOSELY puts bugs in software that supposedly increases compatibility between operating systems. For instance, Novell provided tested code for IPX SPX and the client for Netware networks to microsoft, who rejected it and puposely wrote code to reduce network performance and create connectivity problems. Although this was never proven, only an idiot would say this was not true. Another thing, some of you may say Macs don’t work with peecees but I have a share on my peecee at home and at work. Also, some of you need to cut the death threats, they upset me, and I’m not the sort of person to upset. I might pull you intestines out through your stomach with my bare hands.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 6/19/06 @ 9:56 am
I know little about this whole thing and was searching for a reson why macs suck. I have heard that they do but have never realy heard why.
after reading down this page i have heard that macs are better because they are easy to use. XD if you can’t figure out how to use a pc you should never be allowed to reproduce.
about those comercials with that guy who was in dodgeball, how the hell is less iruses being made for a system something to brag about? all it means is that people care so little about mac users that thay won’t bother taking the time to fuck with you.
then again, i’m a gamer so i use a pc. there is no such thing as a mac gamer. if i where a hacker i would ude linux. if i where into image and video editing i would still use a pc because there are programs that are godley for editing made for pc’s. graphics are easey, upgrade. top of the line graphics cards are not as expensive as getting a new mac.
Comment by Niro — 6/20/06 @ 5:44 am
“The only problems with microsoft hardware and other platforms is that our “friend” billy PURPOSELY puts bugs in software that supposedly increases compatibility between operating systems. For instance, Novell provided tested code for IPX SPX and the client for Netware networks to microsoft, who rejected it and puposely wrote code to reduce network performance and create connectivity problems. Although this was never proven, only an idiot would say this was not true.”
Not willing to believe in things that have no proof makes people idiots? You’re doing my work for me!
Previous post (right above):
“I’m sorry, a peecee can’t run OS X at all”
Current post (just below the previous one):
“if you wanted to it might be possible to run OS X on a peecee with some modifications to the code.”
And:
“Mac OS X has all the code necessary to run on intel hardware”
What to say, McHacker? Maybe I should ask if you’re checking into rehab soon because your mind seems to be unfurling…or you’re just a typical Mac user. Either or.
“several not so common brands such as NEC peripherals”
NEC not so common? I’ve come across an NEC CR-ROM, network card, keyboard, or monitor on almost every job I’ve done. Maybe not so common in your little Mac world where every piece of hardware needs to be stamped with an apple.
“I am fully aware of dual–boot, and I’m not referring to software, I’m referring to hardware. Apple hardware rus xp as fast if not faster then dell, gateway, or hp.”
Well of course it does. It’s a dual-processor system with a good chunk of RAM…that’s pretty high-end in terms of what Windows needs to run so of course it’ll run fast. OSX actually needs these behemoth specs to run properly which, once again shows how bloated, slow, and completely inadequate an operating system it really is.
“The only problems with microsoft hardware…”
Wow…and you say you’re certified in this? What Microsoft hardware are you talking about…the XBOX?
You really are stupid.
Comment by P — 6/20/06 @ 8:16 am
I posted: “I am fully aware of dual–boot, and I’m not referring to software, I’m referring to hardware. Apple hardware rus xp as fast if not faster then dell, gateway, or hp.”
P replied: “Well of course it does. It’s a dual-processor system with a good chunk of RAM…that’s pretty high-end in terms of what Windows needs to run so of course it’ll run fast. OSX actually needs these behemoth specs to run properly which, once again shows how bloated, slow, and completely inadequate an operating system it really is.”
So what are you trying to say? that Apple hardware runs too fast? Or that xp is low-end compared to Mac OS X?
Another thing, have you ever tried Netware? Try installing NWLink, using that for a little while, uninstall it, Go to Novells website http://download.novell.com/SummaryFree.jsp?buildid=AxWTK6UL8X8~ and download their version of the protocol and compare the diffrerence. Theres your proof, bitch.
And when I said microsoft hardware I meant software. It’s kind of hard to stay on topic with some idiot coming in with a pc for me to repair every two seconds.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 6/20/06 @ 10:17 am
Oh, Come one P you know its true
Comment by TJ — 6/22/06 @ 2:07 pm
I had a ibook g4 for about a year and it sucked! Now, i did the thing i was wainting to do buy a windows xp laptop.
Comment by pcfreek — 6/24/06 @ 1:17 pm
TJ – Gross…that’s just gross. If I ever evern thought to being imagining of thinking something like that I would surely be a gonner. Beside. whose vocal retribution would take me place? Who could spit vitriol with such conviction and eloquence?
McHacker – You mean Novell’s own product/protocol runs better than Microsoft’s? GASP!
I can just as easily counter by saying BSD’s Unix runs much faster than OSX. I guess there’s your proof, bitch!
Comment by P — 6/26/06 @ 2:11 pm
pcfreek – That’s a shame. I feel really sorry for your loss (of money). I hope you at least managed to recoup some of your losses and I hope you didn’t completely lose your hair…IT DOES GROW BACK WHEN YOU’RE OFF THE MAC!
Comment by P — 6/26/06 @ 2:14 pm
P – I guess you’re not a complete idiot; you just admitted that Novell is better than microsoft. microsoft’s version sucks doesn’t it? I can only assume that you were testing what I said and it proved and reinforced what I said earlier (gap between postings 6/20/06 – 6/26/06). Also if BSD’s Unix runs faster than OSX then it runs MUCH faster then windoze. Also, to clear something up real quick I’m more of a microsoft hater then a peecee hater. I don’t have a problem with something that works halfway decently and miicrosoft doesn’t fall in that category. Apple is the only brand of computer that I’ve been able to use without anywhere near as many problems as as I have had with microsoft. The only major problem I had was the upgraded hard drive (Qauntum) died. Not much of a problem because of weekly backups. It only took two days to get back everything I lost because it was not my primary computer at the time.
pcfreek – please clarify, what exactly “sucked” about your G4? Too easy to use? No spyware? No viruses? I know some of you peecee people out there are obsessed with running your littie virus, spyware , malware, whateverware scans on your little peecees that when some of you switch it feels like somethings miissing. You’re just crackheads going through withdrawl (I just gotta get spyware repair fix!!!!!)
Pathetic
Comment by Mac Hacker — 6/27/06 @ 1:13 pm
McHacker – I didn’t run the comparison but I imagine you may be right; but again, why wouldn’t the company who *invented* the protocol/product have better support for it? I don’t really see that as any sort of proof…after all, MS just adapted it (along with numerous other protocol stacks) so if their IPX/SPX drivers aren’t as great as Novell’s then I don’t see this as any sort of proof of inferiority. Besides, I can download Novell’s drivers and use them alongside other Windows drivers so, while MS may not have the best solution, I can get a great solution just because of the virtue of owning a PC. Again, I fail to see how that makes the Mac so superior. I do, however, make numerous points on why both the hardware and OS are inferior but these are in lengthy lists in previous posts (above) so I’ll refer you to those rather than repeating them here.
The gap in postings, BTW, was some internal error at BlueDamage (posting not being accepted)…not testing.
As for your issues with Microsoft, I’ll again refer you to previous posts but to sum up, I don’t love ‘em either. However, I can say with ease that the multitude of software available for the PC, including multi-boot and virtualization software, I’m not in any way tied to running Windows exclusively. One of my major points with the Mac is that, up until very recently, you were a slave to Apple (OS/Hardware). Now, after much fanfare (as though they came up with something original), they’ve been pushing their dual boot software (still a beta I believe) and you finally have the choice of Windows and OSX. That still limitis you to Apple-only hardware and that leads to a very simple conclusion: lack of robustness in OSX. After all, Windows was not written with anything specific in mind other than Intel-based processors so they can be run on virtually any flavour of PC hardware. OSX can’t/won’t: http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/os/0,39024180,39235916,00.htm
Besides that, I’ve tested the latest and greatest Mac alongside a lowly Dell in my daily web development tasks — see above (programming, image manipulation, audio manipulation, etc.) and the performance of the Mac is *simply inferior*, sometimes to a staggering degree. Even all those arguments about Photoshop and Final Cut processing data faster than a PC are straight-up lies. I’ve expreienced it first hand and the Mac is in every way a worse machine.
They switched to Intel architecture because their previous PowerPC chips apparently weren’t cutting it, yet they were running at 2 Ghz with a gig of RAM…that’s a pretty powerful PC so again it raises the question why OSX is such a hog when Windows can do the same tasks with much less. Simple logic would also dictate that Windows, developed for and tweaked over many years for the Intel chip, would simply work better/faster than a newly *ported* OS like OSX. All this for a higher cost!
I’ve had HDD failures on my PC and have the thing restored from backups within 15 minutes. You’re still failing to impress me.
Comment by P — 6/28/06 @ 1:00 pm
And when I said primary computer I meant primary Mac.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 6/29/06 @ 12:37 pm
Restoring the image took only minutes, but recreating the work lost (what I was working on when it crashed)took a couple extra days because, like I said, It was not my primary Mac at the time. It was jus an older machine I used for playing older games and sometimes typing up documents. I looked at the link in your post. I also looked at the article about windows vista. To stay fairly open i’ll say what I liked and didn’t like about it. What I like: Using a USB flash disk to add RAM. What I don’t like: Their “new” integrated search is probably a ripoff of Apples Spotlight from 10.4 tiger. A word of advice not related to what we’re talking about: don’t buy Quantum drives, a fellow pc tech told me about his problem with dell and their use of Quantum drives. The school bought brand new dells and almost all of them failed (the drives)within two years and had to be replaced. He works in a school with about 90 dells. Maxtor is the best choice pc or Mac for hard drives.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 6/30/06 @ 11:06 am
I am a new Mac OSX User useing an iMac and MacBook and I love them both. I hate windows. Mac’s are ment for Every thing and PC’s are ment for Porn.
Comment by Eric — 7/3/06 @ 10:35 am
Good for you, Eric. pc’s are meant for porn wether the user wants it or not (heh heh).
Comment by Mac Hacker — 7/3/06 @ 12:22 pm
I work for a local design company.
It takes 3 seconds for Adobe Illustrator/Photoshop/Flash to load.
I’m on a pc.
I would never trade a piece of shit mac for this.
Comment by anony — 7/13/06 @ 8:42 pm
So whats up? Is this thread dead or something?
Comment by Mac Hacker — 7/13/06 @ 9:07 pm
Good sites:
1. http://imachate.tripod.com/id6.html
2. http://www.bolt.com/stillhollywood/video/1376480
Comment by El — 7/16/06 @ 3:51 pm
The availability of quilting apps makes or breaks a platform.
‘Nuff said.
Comment by carpman — 7/30/06 @ 3:21 am
I hope it is.
lol.
Comment by urmom — 8/3/06 @ 9:45 pm
Is it just me or is windows vista built on Mac OS 9x? compare the interface. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/default.mspx http://www.answers.com/topic/mac-os-9-screenshot-2-jpg Also, their “new” search capabilities is just a ripoff of Apples “Spotlight” which I might add is already out. When did they say vista was supposed to be out again? I can’t remember.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 8/5/06 @ 4:06 pm
Here’s a better mac os 9 Picture. http://image.versiontracker.com/scrnsht/68600/204514/711Adminalyser%20MacOS%209.jpg
note the look of the navigation arrows.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 8/5/06 @ 7:13 pm
Well, First of all Macs suck their laggy, system locking, gay tards only self…
and second of all pcs rule and mac users need a life… because the only thing a mac is good for is getting high from the gay dock thing
any Pcs rule your bad comebacks selves
Comment by Ian — 8/29/06 @ 12:33 pm
Ian posted
Well, First of all Macs suck their laggy, system locking, gay tards only self…
and second of all pcs rule and mac users need a life… because the only thing a mac is good for is getting high from the gay dock thing
any Pcs rule your bad comebacks selves
The only “cumback” you have is what drips off your moms chin, but since you’re a dickless 10 year old who can’t write a proper sentence, you get no cumback at all.
Don’t post here unless you have something to back up your claims, and learn proper punctuation.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 8/30/06 @ 11:59 am
I’ve used both OS X and PC. First off, I don’t like the Mac interface, errors seem to hit me in the face on the simplest things i’d do on the PC. Second, why teach kids an OS that’s only on 10% of computers?
I have yet to see the infamous Blue Screen of Death since the Pentium 1 days, and a 2.0 ghz laptop would get schooled against any desktop PC OR Mac. It’s all about the read speed, not proc speed, and they don’t put a 7200 RPM drive in notebooks that often.
Macs aren’t all that secure though either, you get there virus protection off and it’s open season, XP has it’s own firewall, and on top of that if you don’t have a virus protection up, it’ll bug you to get a free one or a trial somewhere.
Editing stuff, maybe. Never touched a g5 in my life, mostly because windows is 1. Readily available 2. Has games 3. doesn’t hog every last freaking reasource needed to play that game 4. Is compatible with 99.8% of computing people.
Yeah, macs can share with anything, that includes PC’s, so uh, we don’t care. Your still useing Microsoft programs when you use office, so if you’e such a PC/Microsoft hatea’ stop making documents with the rest of us, go into your corner, and make a mail chain to the ones on teh edge who don’t care what OS their on, as long as it gets the friggin job done. And XP can get it done on anything, and your petty OSX is too “cool’ to be with the rest of us, unable to dual boot on PC’s, but letting us in. Hmm, odd huh, Apple letting another OS boot on it’s “supierior” GUI. interesting… If it was so great, why dual boot?
Comment by bobby — 9/3/06 @ 1:20 am
My mac keeps me dry when it rains. I live in a desert but I look cool in my mac which is what matters. It has no other purpose in life but I feel special in my mac as I am dry on the inside and need a shiny outer shell to show people I am cool. I like the way I can pull a string and my hood wraps tightly around my face as it makes me feel protected and safe. I have difficulty dressing myself so I like my Mac as I just put it on over my head. My mac came with a free lunch (it had a bite out of it) – I ate it anyway but it wasn’t fresh and tasted of 1980s. I am thinking of changing my mac to one that comes in a handy pocket sized bag but they don’t come in the color of my choice so I won’t as I won’t look cool. I heard that my mac was based upon a classic water repellent clothing line but that it has added extras such as fashionable holes in the hood which make it look cool. I like to look cool, I don’t mind the gaping holes in it’s basic design. Actually it helps in the desert – what insight, how inspired, how cool! ?!?!?!
Comment by McFool — 9/5/06 @ 1:40 pm
Keep fighting the good fight recipher
PCs rule
Comment by Bear — 9/7/06 @ 9:48 pm
I think Recypher gave up the fight long ago.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 9/9/06 @ 2:16 pm
He sho did, didn’t he
Comment by Bear — 9/11/06 @ 11:17 am
Anyway all this was a joke but peple got personal and started flaming back and forth.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 9/12/06 @ 12:13 pm
oh crap, I spelled “people” wrong.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 9/12/06 @ 12:14 pm
Macs are by far the sorriest excuse for technology I have ever had the hellish experience to work on.
Comment by matthew Monahan — 9/12/06 @ 10:41 pm
Macs and gamers don’t mix. Period. Stop trying to convert me.
Comment by Dimension — 9/17/06 @ 12:37 am
I’ve got an idea, why don’t I buy a Mac and a PC. I’ll use my PC for business and important stuff, and I’ll use my Mac for entertainment purposes…….oh yea, I can’t do that because the Mac costs too much.
Comment by Bear — 9/19/06 @ 11:33 pm
O well, I can still use my PC (which costs less) to do everything else.
Comment by Bear — 9/19/06 @ 11:35 pm
Just bullshits…
Comment by Paul — 9/25/06 @ 9:00 am
Haha! I can’t believe people are still posting to this!
Anyhow, I loved the new Mac commercial where the dude says that Macs can’t get viruses…. I pity the fool who believes that….
Comment by Fat Kid At McDonalds — 9/28/06 @ 11:51 am
It cracks me up about all the mac posters who are melting down over this!
“HEY SUCKER! IM ON MY MAC AND IM ON YOUR STUPID SITE! WOHOO SURPRISE!!! And yes we can view PICTURES! You know why?! MAC IS FOR GRAPHISME!! You are a real stupid ! seriously fuck You!”
LOL!
Have they not noticed that this blog is SATIRE?!
Comment by D~C — 11/3/06 @ 2:55 pm
Yeah and all you stupid f@#ks own iPods. DUH.
Comment by Booyeah — 11/15/06 @ 6:17 pm
Mac sucks balls and ass mac can kiss my ass also and ipods suck to i hate the bastard things and be sure to read my comments on the surviving a zombie attack! =D
Comment by Recon — 11/21/06 @ 4:37 pm
your all pathetic noobs.
IM A GENIUS!
Comment by Kayl_JefY Genius @ work — 11/21/06 @ 8:06 pm
macs are made for business guys that dont have a life
pcs run everything better
PLUS THE RIGHT CLICK
they play videos
they dont shut down and freeze every time i go on myspace
\AND THE RIGHT CLICK
Comment by katflciky — 11/29/06 @ 1:09 am
Interesting site. I agree completely with your statements ’bout Macs. I accessed your site wilst exposing a plagerizer. I’m on my phone and thought I’d do some quick research.
I bid the adieu.
Comment by MetaEnder — 11/30/06 @ 1:12 pm
I bought a Mac but I had to take it back to the Apple store because it didn’t work as well as my PC.
First of all, my new ZUME wouldn’t interface with iTunes, and I had just bought all this cool “Plays For Sure” music like Creed and Godsmack.
Secondly, I now have this huge stack of CDs of all install shit for all this digital shit I own, like cameras and printers and stuff.
Also, all this virus protection and anti-spam software and junk is just going to waste.
Oh, and solitaire and minesweeper were nowhere to be found.
Macs is stupid.
Comment by Egbert Souse — 12/14/06 @ 3:31 am
This pretty much sums it up
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1357616136
Comment by Mac Hacker — 12/20/06 @ 9:40 pm
Number one reason that the MACS are stupid…
Spell it backwards! “SCAM”. Thats it, a scam
It’s not like they need compitition though,
MACS are meant for PC Newbies and PCs
are meant for experts that want to be a
successful person..
For example:
Windows – Professional computer, Meant for mannaging.
MAC Os X – Meant for people on chat and email stuff.
MAC Os 8 – For schools, Meant to throw up error messages.
Linux – Uhm, for no apparent reason
Or if you cant resist the MAC or PC,
Try my up comming software, called
loneBud, a mix of MAC and Windows.
a.k.a. WinMac
Comment by Conner Harkness — 12/23/06 @ 8:54 pm
i don’t get it… what’s a macs?
Comment by mortimernova — 12/28/06 @ 6:47 pm
First of all, with the newly introduced Intel Macs, a Mac is also a PC at any given time. So basically, if you have an intel powered mac, you also have a pc with Bootcamp, provided as a free download from apple.com. Its called dual booting children! you can start up windows, or if you so choose, mac. Ultimately, this means that a mac manufactured by Apple Computer, can do anything that any other PC machine can do, and alot more faster. Research has shown that Macs run Windows XP 33 percent faster than an equally built PC. (Macbook Pro vs.. Dell Inspiron). So that means that with a mac, you can run widnows, and run it faster than a machine that was built to run it, can. Hmm.. Mac suck eh? Next topic, Graphics and Media. EVERYONE, with half a brain, knows that Macs are the industry standard when it comes down to graphics, audio, video and even professional photography. Of course, some dimwit is going to reply to this saying NO NO THEY ARE NOT. But really, no one gives a shit so just shut up before you even start. it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. If you go into a recording studio in LA, you will see macs. If you go into a professional web design copmany’s office, you will see macs, unless they are stoned. If you go into most professional photographers offices, you will see macs. if you go into a video production studio, you will see macs. How is that so hard to understand?
As of the time being, macs do not get viruses. Now one of you mental crabcakes, is going to say “oh but thats because no one uses them” – Well, it doesnt really matter does it? NO! The bottom line is that you cant get one as of the time being and probably not for a very long time anyways.
Now for the idiot who posted about the ZUNE, not working on macs. Well theres microsoft again. If you would have read the package you clueless monkey, you would have seen that no where does it say mac compatable. The iPod however, is both mac and pc copmatable.
Also, as for pricing, macs will usually be cheaper of any pc of the same specifications. Dont belive me? Price it out. Don’t forget to include the iSight camera, retailed at 190, dont forget to add the iLife suite, which is an incredible softwqare package. Oh and make sure you add the $250 for office there. Because wait, macs come with AppleWorks. Even if you want to compare how much office costs, its only 129 FOR THE MAC. and at least 200 for the PC.
Nothing i just said matters anyways, because, with the new macs, you can boot up windows, that means that bottom line, end of story no more questions… MACS CAN DO MORE THAN PCS, because you have windows and mac on a mac, and with a PC, oops sorry only windows
..
P.S. to the moron who says, “you can run mac on a pc, ive seen it on youtube” yeah you have fun coding that out, and trying to get that owrking, those nerds worked on that for a long time, but no with mac its just plop in the install disc, and bam you have windows and mac.
Oh and i forgot something… the displays that are on most macs, ARE THE HIGHEST QUALITY DISPLAYS available. Try and match one of those up with any pc your payinig way extra..
AND WHO CAN FORGET. MACS ARE THE MOST GORGEOUS NEAT AND MODERN LOOKING COMPUTERS THAT ARE AROUND! 1 piece of equiptment for the iMac, and eMac. NO MONITOR. Its all right there.
DING FUCKING DONG!
oh and i am on a mac fred, so go ahead and check that… and id love to see you try and touch my mac, lets see you get in mr smarty pants.. oh wait, you cant because im on a MAC!
g’night folks.
Comment by Mike — 12/30/06 @ 10:39 pm
Mike,
I hate to tell you, but, there is several things wrong with your stupid reply.
1. You can’t dual boot on a Mac. Case and point, we tried to dual boot with a Mac and Ubuntu, the Mac started to slowly chip away at the Ubuntu partition. I first noticed it when my partition size for the Mac, where I store my llama videos, nearly doubled in two months. Let’s talk about how Mac plays nice. Oh yeah, IT DOESN’T.
2. The Dells from last year are so much faster than the new Mac Probooks. I’m running a 333 straight out the box dude. Runs AOL in only 10 seconds. I’m sure Garage Band is great and all if you are into producing shitty music, but, I like to surf the internet. Something that you can’t do on a Mac.
3. The Zune was built for Damn Small Linux, why does it matter if it runs on the Mac anyway. The only reason the iPod runs on Windows is because everything runs on Windows, especially Windows 3.1. Even iTunes 8 can run on it, it’s quick as hell on my old Dell. Faster than any stupid Macbook Pro, you loser!
4. My PC displays pictures so clear, you can almost see the internet tubes if you look closely. Actually, the company that made my computer manufactured the Macbook Pro. Now your shiny and stupid Macbooks are made in China, YOU COMMUNIST. How does the drop in quality feel?
5. Yeah, all the Macs look nice and pretty, until you open them up and realize IT’S COMMUNISM, YOU PINKO LIBERAL.
6. I hope you enjoy your stupid Macs and all of the viruses they have. When Steve Jobs has hacked into your computer and is masturbating to your own collection of granny porn, tell me that Gates is the bad guy. What has Steve Jobs done for society besides bringing back the turtleneck? The only person that is allowed to wear turtlenecks is CARL FUCKING SAGAN. No one else.
Enjoy your DS Files you big dummy.
By the way, if Jesus used an OS, it would be Windows. Not Mac. Still thinking your going to get in Heaven now?
G’night indeed.
Comment by Recipher — 12/31/06 @ 4:07 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiwYNyCkuCk
Comment by Mac Hacker — 1/2/07 @ 2:19 am
ok, why do you people spaz out so much over this stuff lol? i think the funniest part was the star wars fanatics on the star wars interview. if you can’t tell this stuff is fake you really just have anger problems.
Comment by Jesus — 1/3/07 @ 4:05 pm
WTF are all of u aruging about.This website is made to piss of mac users nothing else.mac is and will always be better ,more secure,more practical,nicer,faster and better suited for work BUT MORE EXPENSIVE!well it has to be.They are like rolce-roys.PCs are cheaper and much worse like VW beetle!
Comment by EF — 1/4/07 @ 6:09 pm
As an avid Mac lover, I must set the record straight.
Every single one of your claims is unwarrented.
Obviously, your research is faulty.
Don’t plan on a job in politics. They’d impeach you.
1. Mac’s view pictures with better resolution than a PC could ever offer. Hate to break it to you but I have several TIFF and JPG files on my Mac.
Your statement: “Where is MS Paint? Where is ACDSee? These programs are not available, thus, you can not view any pictures on a Mac.”
You, sir, are asanine.
MS Paint has nothing to do with pictures on a PC. Even I know that. Mac’s have a program called iPhoto that can sort and edit images.
2. Your statement: “Macintosh computers attach the string of words ‘Macs are cool’ to every sentence you will read while using the OS…. That’s ridiculous.”
This statement is ridiculous.
Mac’s do no such thing.
That which is cool does not need to boast itself up.
3. Your statement: “Steve Jobs, the president of Macs, said at a press conference a few weeks back that they were working on the whole ‘internet accessibility thing.’ All computers come with the internet right? WRONG. On PCs, you can access the internet using AOL at anytime you desire! Macs don’t let you connect to the internet, it has something to do with INCOMPATIBILITY, something you better get used to if you use one.”
There are several reasons your statement is wrong:
a. State your source. A specific source, not just “a press conference a few weeks back”. Steve Jobs does not use the same rhetoric you do, nor do I believe that it is a coincidence that his statement somehow, mysteriously fits into your ranting unwarrented 3rd degree.
b. If it were impossible to access the internet from a Mac, I would not be posting this comment.
Mac’s are equipped to do all the things you said they couldn’t.
You are spreading unwarrented, non-cohereant slander.
Comment by Bee. — 1/7/07 @ 11:17 pm
As an avid Dell user, I must set the record straight.
Every single one of YOUR claims is unwarranted. By the way, do they have spell checkers on Macs yet? Obviously, your face is faulty.
Actually, a job in politics seems to be right up my alley. On to your stupid points.
1) Look, I’ve tried to look at llama porn through PNG images on the AOLs. And it didn’t work. I even did a print screen! iPhoto messed up my G3 iBook Pro twice.
2) The “Macs are Cool” string of words is no longer, don’t you read the comments? Mine now now says “Macs are Kool” which is clearly incorrect. Besides, Macs aren’t even cool.
Oh, look at you using fancy numbering systems!
3) a) Look here. http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/index.html “Steve Jobs, the president of Macs, said at a press conference…” See jerkbag? By the way, nice spelling. Again.
b) Or you are running Parallels and using IE4.0 to access the internet. At least that’s what it says here in the logs.
Agent: InternetsExploers/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows NT 1.0)
You are spreading bullshit on threads. Go disprove gravity or something, genius.
Comment by Recipher — 1/7/07 @ 11:40 pm
I endorse Mac’s completely. Their commercials are funny.
Comment by Satan — 1/10/07 @ 4:35 am
>>> 1. Mac’s view pictures with better resolution than a PC could ever offer. Hate to break it to you but I have several TIFF and JPG files on my Mac.
Your statement: “Where is MS Paint? Where is ACDSee? These programs are not available, thus, you can not view any pictures on a Mac.”
You, sir, are asanine.
MS Paint has nothing to do with pictures on a PC. Even I know that. Mac’s have a program called iPhoto that can sort and edit images.
How does the Mac do this? They have some sort of magical super-monitor where pixels are more closely spaced together? This could almost be believable except that Apple doesn’t actually manufacture any of their own equipment. They appropriate it from hardware makers that make the same equipment for the PC.
PCs have a thing called file browser that you can use to preview and manage photos. The only real difference is that on a PC I don’t have to run a special app (and then have it mysteriously keep running in the dock despite telling it to close…what the hell is the purpose of the “X” button on windows anyways?!?)
>> 2. Your statement: “Macintosh computers attach the string of words ‘Macs are cool’ to every sentence you will read while using the OS…. That’s ridiculous.”
This statement is ridiculous.
Mac’s do no such thing.
That which is cool does not need to boast itself up.
No, it’s true. They also append Steve Jobs is your lord GOD”, only you’re too brainwashed to notice. After all, why would Apple spend so much time developing things like the genie effect (which incidentally is responsible for about 90% processor usage when active)? Because they use it subliminally control people like you. It’s sad, really. I don’t hate you…I just pity you.
>>>3. Your statement: “Steve Jobs, the president of Macs, said at a press conference a few weeks back that they were working on the whole ‘internet accessibility thing.’ All computers come with the internet right? WRONG. On PCs, you can access the internet using AOL at anytime you desire! Macs don’t let you connect to the internet, it has something to do with INCOMPATIBILITY, something you better get used to if you use one.”
There are several reasons your statement is wrong:
a. State your source. A specific source, not just “a press conference a few weeks back”. Steve Jobs does not use the same rhetoric you do, nor do I believe that it is a coincidence that his statement somehow, mysteriously fits into your ranting unwarrented 3rd degree.
b. If it were impossible to access the internet from a Mac, I would not be posting this comment.
It’s true. Macs DO access the internet. I think what he was referring to was the ability to display things beyond just text. Apparently the next version of OSX will allow you to open more than one Safari browser window *and* display pictures. Cool! If you want to see what this is like, try it on a PC.
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Notice how no one even really bothers to put forward a cohesive arguments against Macs any more. Once again I find myself in the unfortunate company of Macs (luckily not for myself) and the string of expletives I hear every day from their users simply solidify the absolutely rancid image of Apple products I have in my mind. But hell, plug in your iPod into your iMac and use the only Apple software (like you have a choice, chump!) I prognosticated that the Apple would be going on Intel hardware (see my posts in this thread a-WAY back) and once again I state that before 2010, Apple will be a rip-off of Microsoft. You’re still Jobs’ bitch and you’re paying premium for the priviledge. If you had any sort of balls you would actually do some real-world tests between…let’s give you a fighting chance…the latest Mac hardware/software and, let’s say, 5-year-old PC running Windows 98. Yup, that may be more of an even match-up. Chump.
Comment by P — 1/15/07 @ 2:28 pm
>>> Mac’s are equipped to do all the things you said they couldn’t.
You are spreading unwarrented, non-cohereant slander.
Hmmm….does a Mac come with a spell-checker? Or do you ignore it like you do reality?
Sure, Macs can do stuff…so long as you don’t want to produce anything that’s readable by the rest of the world; and at twice the price and with half the features of a PC. Also, for god’s sake don’t use the letter “i” in anything (shit, I just did!). Apple WILL sue your ass, unless of course they stole it first (like with Cisco’s iPhone…then it’s okay for them to steal stuff). You a fan? Well, don’t actually tell anyone or Apple will sue you too: http://www.smh.com.au/news/mobiles–handhelds/apple-crunches-websites-over-iphone-skins/2007/01/15/1168709656280.html
Of course Macs are easier to use; made for the complete idiot. One button mouse just about rigt for the mental ability of the average Mac user; or is Apple just such a bunch of absolutely obstinate pricks that they refuse to upgrade their mouse because…well…what the hell good reason is there?
Apple virus free. PLEASE stop using that argument, it’s just plain bullshit: http://tech.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1246836.php/Macintosh_browser_Safari_target_of_exploit
Maybe you want to tell me about the availability of software for the Mac? Or maybe it’s low cost? How about it’s stability (I was forced to use it for a year next to a Dell so don’t even try)? Maybe its neat user interface? Yes, tell me about the widgets; the brilliant logic that locks up your OS in case you want to use a calculator!
Apple products are flawed. They only thing they have going for them is advertising. You’re paying for a brand name like Prada or Gucci. That makes you a bitch.
Comment by P — 1/15/07 @ 2:37 pm
>>> I endorse Mac’s completely. Their commercials are funny.
Yeah…especially the one where they compare the media produced on a PC compared to a Mac by putting a guy in drag. You wouldn’t actually want any real-world comparisons, numbers, of FACTS. Let’s put some asshole from some shit college movies together with a putz in a brown suit….now THERE’S a reason to buy Apple hardware.
Jeezus.
Comment by P — 1/15/07 @ 2:40 pm
>>> WTF are all of u aruging about.This website is made to piss of mac users nothing else.mac is and will always be better ,more secure,more practical,nicer,faster and better suited for work BUT MORE EXPENSIVE!well it has to be.They are like rolce-roys.PCs are cheaper and much worse like VW beetle!
Apple doesn’t actually produce any of their own hardware (especially now that they use Intel architecture). They ripped their OS off from BSD and the interface off from Xerox. The mouse wasn’t their invention and, in fact, they don’t actually do anything other than slap their logo on things and charge twice the price. How about a comparison of performance? Rolls Royce? Effing moron….there’s NOTHING original in a Mac. Moron. Why don’t you open your computer once in a while and peek inside. It doesn’t work on magic or elves as you may believe. Typical Mac user.
Comment by P — 1/15/07 @ 2:43 pm
wtf all of this is wrong i am using a mac online right now and i can see pictures and im seeing the same thing any other pc user is. i have a pc down stairs the internet and images are the same this is total bull shit.
Comment by jhhjh — 1/16/07 @ 5:03 pm
ok, macs blow. Their os is as slow as shit 2 startup. Their is no competetion for sales so they crank the prices. all their bouncy shit and their fancy graphics just take up ram and it goes slower. They claim that they dont crash…..complete bullshit. They advertise that their “all fun”, ok lets see a game you can play with ur homo one click mouse. Apple is so sad as to get their system to dual boot with windows……how fucking sad is that? They all run MICROSOFT office, know who do you think is making the profit? It is also impsibble to keep a mac keboard clean, they all look dusgusting. Dot even get me started on quicktime, probably the worst media program invented. then instead of Ctrl+ALT+DEL, they have this homo combonation of four buttons that are scatterd accross the keyboard. Overall the people at the Apple store are freaks.
P.S: The mac commecials stopped showing becuase everyone liked the PC guy better.
Comment by Eemoo13 — 1/17/07 @ 7:28 pm
My Mac was delivered to my doorstep without anyone having to sign for it. That was thoughtful, except I live on a busy pedestrian street in downtown Wasington DC. I thought it was a miracle that it hadn’t been stolen until I put it on the sidewalk last fall after a few months (I couldn’t find a city or suburban school that would take it. The Apple Store could only recommend a school in New England.) The pretty little colorful disc spun just about 24/7 and Apple couldn’t have been less helpful. (Oh yeah, I had to pay extra for the rude “help” people.) Mac versions of PC software used for publishing applications didn’t work well when I was able to use it. I give the Mac points for being pretty, but for the arm and a leg that it cost, it could have worked too. I really wanted to like my Mac, but it was like having a car with a leather interior but no engine. It was on the street for almost a week (with a shopping bag full of books, all the software – current Tiger -, and the original unused mouse) before it disappeared. I was fortunate that I could replace it with a PC laptop that hasn’t given me a moment of trouble with either reliability or accessing many web files as I did with my Mac.
Comment by 927 — 1/18/07 @ 1:55 am
Jesus
what is all this about?
if you want a cheap system then windows is the way, but if your abit more of a gadget guy/gal then a mac purchase is a must… they are just beautiful.
I dont feel Gates puts much thought into how windows is going to develop from year to year, he is far too busy basking in his “pool room” in his $90 million underground home.
i mean the man from del monte really said YES (google & yahoo) when the release of the iphone was released.
when you buy a pc, their must be over 20 companys crammed into that that tower……buy a mac and i think you could count the amount of manufacturers on one hand?
who has enjoyed any of these:
music by your favourite artist
latest and greatest film, produced using mind boggling CG (computer graphics)
the latest and greatest film without CG
……they all are made using macintosh hardware,software and inspiration.
being a computer engineer for the time i have i can hand on heart say i have never had to repair a mac.
i am a converted pc user, i used to be the guy telling you in the shops that macs couldnt do this and that etc
my deepest appologies Mr Jobs, accept my appologies in the form of a lifetimes use of your products.
Comment by Mac guru — 1/18/07 @ 7:50 am
Je pense Apple, je vis Apple. Tout ce que vous dites dans votre article ne provient, en fait, que de la jalousie. Pauvre crétin, ouvre les yeux et balance ton PC par la fenêtre (Windows). Mac est cent fois plus puissant que n’importe quel PC. Et si tout les hommes politiques et chefs d’états utilisaient un Mac, il n’y aurait plus de guerre dans le monde, plus de famine. Si G W Bush avait un mac, il n’y aurait pas tous GI tombés sous les balles en Irak…
Comment by Bernimont — 1/18/07 @ 4:42 pm
hi… i disagree with your little macs suck thing. first off, i am on a mac, and it can access internet because i am reading your crap, and commenting on it, so i obviously can.
and why did u say you cant view pictures? i can. when i put them in a folder, leave them on my desktop, or put them into programs, click on them, they pop up. so, im pretty sure i can see them.
ive had a pc for a long time, and ill i know about them is that they are crap. they are big, slow, and crap. they have the huge tower, they freeze all the time, they break easily, it takes forever to open anything, they arent user freindly, they are ugly, they dont have a cool little apple symbol, you need to buy practically all your programs and software, itunes comes programmed into it, you cant edit, enhance, retouch, alter, crop and do all sorts of other cool stuff to pictures on a pc, and they are just complete crap compared to a mac
with my mac, i can listen to music, open the internet, look at pictures, watch movies, burn cds, play games, take pictures of myself without downloading, or installing anything. pc’s, umm no. you have to download everything, wich takes forever.
being a former pc user, i know what im talking about.
yours truely,
val
Comment by ak-baby92 — 1/31/07 @ 4:14 pm
uhh… why are you guys wasting so much time on this crap? its just a difference in thought over a computer.
newsflash;
ITS JUST A COMPUTER.
get over it!
Comment by confused — 1/31/07 @ 4:16 pm
>>>Enjoy your DS Files you big dummy.
Enjoy your Thumbs.db files.
Comment by Mac Hacker — 2/1/07 @ 1:40 am
This is the largest group of idiots I’ve ever seen.
Either everyone is being very sarcastic or I have found a gold mine of idiots.
First of all, people are stupid. People buy macs and are completely duped by advertising. Its so bad that they don’t even know it. Hell they even fight for them. Don’t believe me? Read above! (and possibly below too)
Second of all, PCs are not proprietary. Sure they are to some extent, but you can do anything you want on a PC. You can even program your own calculator if you want. Its really amazing. On a Mac? The most proprietary piece of crap ever.
Seriously people, stop being fooled by marketing genius Steve Jobs. He doesn’t make great products, he makes bad products cool.
_Connery
Comment by Connery — 2/2/07 @ 11:51 am
ok, seriously…you can do pretty much anything on a PC that you can do on a mac…..maybe not necessarily on a Windows machine, but you can install other operating systems that can do the same exact things…for example…the movie Titanic was all edited on a Linux machine, which made it cheaper than all the other movies that were edited on Macs…and if im not mistaken, that movie kicked some serious box office ass…thats all ive got
Comment by aftamath — 2/7/07 @ 3:14 am
“Someone set you up the bomb.
All your PC are belong to Macs. ”
First off, while doing Zero Wing refs, lemme just say:
Mac get signal.
Now, I realize they both have ups and downs, Macs and PCs. But, PCs, you can definitely update. Most Macs leave you in the dust every time a faster processor comes out, and instead of spending 200$ for a new CPU, you find yourself having to blow 1500$ on a new fucking Mac.
Comment by Lane — 2/18/07 @ 10:55 pm
I hate ppl that say macs are good for graphics.. so they run 3D modelling software, whoopey doo! they dont run Doom 3… and they probably cant..
Macs are for idiots who cant look after a PC properly.. Yes PCs can be clumsy and virus infected, but if you actually know what you’re doing (most people dont these days) any PC will be better than a crapplemac..
my dads friend has a mac, and whenever he recieves an email attachment from my dad he always sends the same reply:
“cant open it on my mac” or “cant play it on my mac” or plain old just cant use it on a mac..
Macs suck… get over it.. they are slow, and a recipe for incompatibility
Comment by Unostacko — 2/19/07 @ 10:34 am
I notice that all Mac users here are fixated on how their computer LOOKS… Why in the hell does that matter.. Id rather have a big beige tower that runs like a super computer than a pretty paperweight.. Anyway.. some PC laptops look pretty swish (if thats really important to you)
also, mac users are using “IT illiterate” phrases like ‘open the internet’ and ‘it just pops up’ etc etc.. making it blatentley obvious that they have no idea what they are talking about.. These are the people that dont even WANT to learn how to use a real computer, they are the people who get on the phone to tecnical support before they a: even know what the problem is, and b: use google to try to solve the problem themseves.. (google can teach you ANYTHING).
The fact that macs run MS office is the first small realisation by apple that nothing runs on their machines.. i can imagine the meeting:
“shit, our macs dont run anything….” – “quick, make them run office so people can actually get things done”
If you dont like windows, get a Linux machine, at least you know what hardware is in it
Comment by Unostacko — 2/19/07 @ 10:51 am
Hi all! I’m writing this on a MAC, I dont think we should waste time explanin’ all those silly people how wonderful our Macs are….In spansh we say “la ignorancia es la felicidad” it can be translated like…”ignorace is happines” so I think that time puts people on it’s place…. so let’s enjoy our Macs and let those people try to solve their problems with Vista…. they’ll probably have!
Regards to all Mac users!
Comment by sergio — 2/19/07 @ 6:16 pm
That’s a stupid comment. “let those people try to solve their problems with Vista…. they’ll probably have!” ASSUMPTIONS. Being a mac and pc owner I can tell you for a fact that my mac crashes or freezes all the time. Maybe windows had problems in the past but XP is awsome and vista is better.
I have 15 diferent printers in my office and I tried to get my mac to print to ANY of them. After 8hrs of trying I gave up. Not only does nothing run on the mac, you can’t plug 99% of the printers available into them and have them work.
Usually when I get the spinning wheel of death while the mac is rasterizing some pic in photoshop – it’s a good time to go to lunch because it won’t let me do anything else for and hour.
Mac were good for quark and other such programs but I find quark 6 for windows to be far superior to the mac version.
Sheesh just try and load the new flash player (which every site is now using) on a mac.
Everything is just 20x more difficult on a mac..period and I have them both.
Comment by Savatage — 2/25/07 @ 10:55 pm
listen!! macs may be faster but you forgot 1 thing,they have little memory!! so therefore it makes them leave out important detail,
windows mabe slower but that means the computers internal harddrive is making progess a mother fuckin wothless son of a bitchen mac couldent accomplish even if you gave the fucker a magor harddrive up grade(which you can’t because they don’t have expashion slots or floppy drives)!!! and to shut the fucker down you have to un plug it!!! plus there ugly,have BAD sound quality and a old ass windows 95 could beatit NO PROBLEM
and macs can’t spell worth shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/9/07 @ 12:00 am
also forgot imacs,emacs ,the osx and the os2 all stand for troble,
and os2 stands for obsolete 2.
p.s. a mac comes with a maximum of 5 usb ports
windows come with 16 (printer included)
and the size also fuckes up the profomance a mac can’t have,
if the body was made bigger like a windows, it MIGHT have just enough power to scare a 1990 windows 3.0 (and that has no power!!)
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/9/07 @ 12:13 am
hey sergio,
shut the hell up you fuckin pinko commi
them macs can’t out power the vista because the vista aucally has 6 times the power a mac dosen’t have!!!
you dumass!!!
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/9/07 @ 9:38 am
baby92’s mac can’t speel worth shit – must be a mac osx usally they cant speel so good
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/9/07 @ 9:46 am
WAW ! STUPID KIDDY
you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your 3 reasons are bullshit. What ,people like you have against macs. If you don’t have a mac just shut your fuckin’ mouth and just stay with your stupid pc and think its the best …
Comment by PP — 3/9/07 @ 3:39 pm
dosent’ any body up date this website this must be my 5th message!!
and no response…
and I was checking out those new windows vista laptops…
those are nice ecept not only cant I spell worth shit the vista is so different I dont know how to wok the fucker I need to get away from my xp. badly!!!
Comment by clarinhimer — 3/11/07 @ 1:58 pm
hey pp guess what ?
i have a 1985 apple that has serious problems
allow me to rack up the list
monochrome screen is shot
mouse botton been ripped out
harddrive hasnt worked since it turned 5
half the seril ports are shot
no memrey
bodie is craked
power swith is gone
power cord spits sparks through the ends
and thats not even 1/4 of the poblems cant forget the priner that got wet.
there you go
howed you know i was a kid you spie on me??? fuckin perv.
Comment by clarinhimer — 3/14/07 @ 8:54 pm
Recipher, will you marry me?
Comment by SomeChick — 3/15/07 @ 9:23 am
“First, macs generally do a better job of displaying pictures than PCs. You should see how my G5 machine renders graphics on a widescreen monitor. It can blow away any machine running Windows. Most graphics professionals prefer to to use macs, although the differences are narrowing. Second, Macs ARE cool (and expensive, and over-hyped as well). Macs also have great internet accessibility. They were the first microcomputers that could be be networked. I’ve been using Macs for years. I recently built a PC, and based on my experience with this machine (a 3 GHz Pentium 4 running Windows XP) I will say that Macs are definitely slower. Plus, 95% of the world does computing on Wintel machines, so there is much more software available, plus hardware prices are cheaper. But as you might expect the hardware quality of a lot of PCs is inferior to Macs.”
That might have something to do with your monitor dumbass, macs CANNOT be upgraded like you can using a PC, in conclussion macs are targeted to idiot customers who can’t even turn on a PC, but aparently anyone can make up for being an idiot by having a pretty piece of transparent plastic junk for a computer, hell you can get a kickass PC system for less than half the cost of the new macs.
Comment by Milo Persona — 3/15/07 @ 7:56 pm
ahh p-
you spelled quit wrong…i did the same
my english teacher thinks that to spell good is to spell it like this
GOUD
rite??? NOOO!!! its GOOD you dum ass- no offense to you p-
CLARKINHIMER
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/16/07 @ 8:44 pm
ahhh…milo persona
i got to ask you one question.
WHO’S SIDE ARE YOU ON???
MAC OR WINDOWS??
Because you are right that macs are slower because the guts are compacted way to much like that super slim mac they just put out , my schools guidence teacher just got one because his os x was just worn out.. he says it’s nice but the new mac is slower because the body is only 2 and a half inches thick makeing the harddrive smaller and down powering it …BADLY its just a mac, some day they will get better …hopefully- clarkinhimer
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/16/07 @ 9:34 pm
also forgot if you come apon a older mac (1980’s) TAKE SOMTHING AND BEAT THE FUCKER TO LITTLE PICES BECAUSE I TRIED TO RESTORE MY 1985 MAC AND MACINTOSH SAID
“SORRY NO SERVICE TO MAC OLDER THAN 1990″
THEN THE FUCKER HUNG UP ON ME!!!
WHAT IN THE FUCK DID I DO TO DESERVE SUCH A PHONE CALL??? I WAS POLITE AND GAVE A HAPPY ATTUDE TORDS HIM, AND WHAT DO I GET BACK NOTHIN’ THATS FUCKIN LA CROSSE IN WIS. FOR YA NOBODY HAS BRAINS LIKE THEM FUCKIN NORWEGINS (ME HOMETOWN) YOU THINK THE FUCKERS KNOW HOW TO DRIVE BUT THE DON’T!!!!! clarkinhimer
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/16/07 @ 9:46 pm
HEY BILL!!!
THAT’S THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO TO A MAC, ALL 26 OF THEM
PS I HAVE A JACK RUSSEL TERRIER W/PU MIX AND SHE IS A GOOD JUMPER
and my dad just broght home a jack russel pure bread,6 monthes
of age and can jump into my truck and i can barly climb into the fucker and im 5′0″@15 damn dogs hog the coutch,side walk, food
WHATS NEXT??
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/16/07 @ 9:59 pm
dude, your an idiot.
MACS ARE USED TO MAKE IMAGES! In fact, most graphical companies use macs. There for that reason is waved.
I have never seen the MACS ARE COOL THING on mine, waved
IM ON THE FUCKIN INTERNET DICK! *ahem* waved
so if those are the main reasons then huh? There are no more reasons better than those? So that means macs are better? w00t!
Comment by Spades — 3/17/07 @ 4:35 pm
if you read the fist massage,
notice the accent,fred must be italien ’cause he cant type worth shit
iomges…what the fuck.
also dosent anybody have time to leave comments?
i’d like a good reason or response.
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/17/07 @ 7:57 pm
i fuckin dominated this comment thing
MINE!!! ALL MINE
still macs suck.
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/17/07 @ 9:00 pm
i dont get the massege,spades
what are you trying to say???
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/18/07 @ 4:17 pm
pp- youre a bitch
i bet you are a sex offender
pp what a name
dick weed!
clarkinhimer’s woman
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/18/07 @ 8:45 pm
i agree jp from way up.
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/18/07 @ 8:47 pm
the new flat panel imac would be nice tv screen for a ps3 because they are both glossey black and it dont take much room
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/19/07 @ 9:46 pm
i love youre additude mac ass rammer!!
I HOPE YOU NEVER DIE !! LIVE ON AND GIT’ ER DONE BUT DON’T brake THE MAC it wont give you a blow job
(the dick tray is it toung nice and long)
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/19/07 @ 9:54 pm
well here i sit typIng On A maC, iT”s Ethlr em or it CNt sPeLL
Comment by clarkinhimer — 3/20/07 @ 11:23 am
My Goodness! I do my graphics on a Mac, it looks much cleaner and crisper than any PC I have worked on. I use both, but perfer Mac’s for my job. All other little things like the use of making simple text documents can be done on a PC. Mac’s do alot more than you think! Plus Mac’s are always on a one way road to a better tomorrow.. exponential. PC computers.. there are so many of them! I hear people building their own towers and then they have to go buy the parts to upgrade and make it look pretty but cutting holes in their towers and installing little blue lights in them… at least the MACs look fantastic! I own a beauty powerbook, she is soo lovely, even watching a simple movie is at high resolution. (Her value stays up too) Perhaps the person who posted that nasty comment should at least walk into an Apple store and have a look around and be educated before making comparisons. MACs are the future!! Also why are people (mainly PC people) using Windows Vista? IT SUCKS!! Now, this is something to whinge about.
Comment by Miyu_vip — 3/24/07 @ 2:06 am
i think ,you are a looser if mac is so bad why Windows copies Mac OSX?
Comment by Mac — 3/24/07 @ 11:55 am
DEAR ALL, IMPORTANT MESSAGE!!!
JUST RECANTLY I HAD BEEN FINED FOR LEAVEING SUPER THICK AND BLACK TRAILS OF DEISEL EXAUST IN FRONT OF A COP,HE FIND ME FOR BAD EMMISSIONS…LITTLE DOES HE KNOW ON A FORD FROM 1968,THERE ARE NO EMISSIONS. AND I DUMPED BLACK PAINT WITH B-12 CHEMTOOL IN THE FUEL TANK, WHICK CAUSED THE THICK BLACK SMOKE AT IDLE ROLL.
YOU PUNCH IT SHE WILL WISLE LIKE HELL AND LEAVE TRAILS.
I AM CANGEING MY NAME TO DEISEL AND MAC ABUSER.GOT IT
GOOD.
Comment by clarinhimer — 3/24/07 @ 10:39 pm
im back!!
AND STILL HATE MACS
HERES A LIST ON HOW TO ABUSE A MAC
1.open a program and as soon as it opens close it
2.beat the fuck out of it until the drive discs fly out at high speeds
3.unplug the the key board ,it will thow a panic thrying to find it
4.turn on, unplug (while unit is starting up or at idle) repeat…
5.place it next to a old ass windows the windows will still out run it
6.mentos pepsi aimed at it
7. better yet just piss on it,and hope the fucker dont shock ya!
8. use the key board to beat the fuck out of yer wife for not getting the beer
9.when at idle start a large thing such as a air condishonar on and off.
10.send it back to mac smashed, tell them you got it like that.from them that is.
am i right windows lovers???
Comment by Deisel and mac abuser — 3/24/07 @ 11:03 pm
Thanks for all of the comments, this seems like a good number to stop on. This thread is now closed. You can leave comments on the next 3 reasons why macs suck which can be found here.
The Three Main Reasons Why Macs Suck (Part 2)
Comment by Recipher — 3/26/07 @ 1:13 pm